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Who is @#$%&?
- Thread starter ryaan21
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DiggerODirt
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I think you are referring to.....n a s a t o m d a n k o w s k i.........if you type his name on this forum, for some reason it gets cursed. I don't understand why, he's a Fisher user and has been detecting for over 40 years. Has had his hands in on developing the cz3d....so I don't get it.
Hisnameistomdankowski.
Some sort of kerfuffle happened back in the Dark Ages (I don't know what it was and don't even want to know), and the result was that he became a nonperson.
As the risk of parsing one or more people arf, here's my manifesto on Mr. Nonperson.
1. Mr. Nonperson is a very knowledgeable detectorist, and what's more he's also an engineer who understands beeper guts.
2. Mr. Nonperson is in regular contact with various persons including myself, within the FTP-Fisher company. We are on good terms and value our mutual relationship. It's entirely possible he is in regular contact with one or more insiders at other metal detector manufacturing companies, I don't know and it's none of my damn business anyhow so I've never asked.
3. Although Mr. Nonperson has a website with a forum, where I often lurk but don't post, his website and forum are very different from this one and I do not view them as being direct competitors. No one forum can meet all needs and there will always be others taking up the slack. Furthermore there isn't the slightest danger that Mr. Nonperson's forum might evolve into a direct competitor to Findmall: it just isn't that kind of a thing.
4. Mr. Nonperson, although he has historically had a personal preference for certain Fisher products, and even built a small-scale personal business around aftermarket support of a certain particular Fisher product line, he is not a knee-jerk Fisher partisan, he is first and foremost a detectorist . He's often been quite generous with critique of Fisher products and the company itself when he felt the critique was warranted.
5. To my knowledge nobody has ever questioned Mr. Nonperson's personal integrity.
***************
There, that's my manifesto.
Back in the bad old days, something happened. I don't know specifically what, but I can make some guesses and one or more of them might nail it. It all might have seemed to make sense under the situation that prevailed at the time.
I'm guessing that "at the time" had something to do with events surrounding the failure of Fisher under COHU ownership in California and the transition of Fisher to ownership and manufacturing in El Paso. We were cleaning up a horrible mess that couldn't be returned to its former "under Jim Lewellen" glory, it had to be turned into something different. Although that effort succeeded, it took a couple years for order to emerge from the chaos. The whole transition was a confusing mess to everyone involved, it wasn't like we could just Google a roadmap to tell us where we needed to get to, much less the route there. Everyone involved had to figure it out as it went along.
Mr. Nonperson himself, a fellow whose ties to Fisher were established under the old regime (I believe under Cimino's reign), was suddenly dealing with people in El Paso who didn't know him and he had to figure out what kind of new relationship could emerge. He hung in there for the ride, there were occasional rough spots on both ends, but I'm happy with what came out of the end of that tunnel.
I look forward to the day when Mr. Nonperson can be declared "rehabilitated" or "sentence commuted" or whatever it takes, and this censorship that both impairs the purpose of the forum (communication about relevant stuff) and wastes forum content with posts like this one that deal with forum problems rather than with metal detectors, can be put behind us.
--Dave J.
Some sort of kerfuffle happened back in the Dark Ages (I don't know what it was and don't even want to know), and the result was that he became a nonperson.
As the risk of parsing one or more people arf, here's my manifesto on Mr. Nonperson.
1. Mr. Nonperson is a very knowledgeable detectorist, and what's more he's also an engineer who understands beeper guts.
2. Mr. Nonperson is in regular contact with various persons including myself, within the FTP-Fisher company. We are on good terms and value our mutual relationship. It's entirely possible he is in regular contact with one or more insiders at other metal detector manufacturing companies, I don't know and it's none of my damn business anyhow so I've never asked.
3. Although Mr. Nonperson has a website with a forum, where I often lurk but don't post, his website and forum are very different from this one and I do not view them as being direct competitors. No one forum can meet all needs and there will always be others taking up the slack. Furthermore there isn't the slightest danger that Mr. Nonperson's forum might evolve into a direct competitor to Findmall: it just isn't that kind of a thing.
4. Mr. Nonperson, although he has historically had a personal preference for certain Fisher products, and even built a small-scale personal business around aftermarket support of a certain particular Fisher product line, he is not a knee-jerk Fisher partisan, he is first and foremost a detectorist . He's often been quite generous with critique of Fisher products and the company itself when he felt the critique was warranted.
5. To my knowledge nobody has ever questioned Mr. Nonperson's personal integrity.
***************
There, that's my manifesto.
Back in the bad old days, something happened. I don't know specifically what, but I can make some guesses and one or more of them might nail it. It all might have seemed to make sense under the situation that prevailed at the time.
I'm guessing that "at the time" had something to do with events surrounding the failure of Fisher under COHU ownership in California and the transition of Fisher to ownership and manufacturing in El Paso. We were cleaning up a horrible mess that couldn't be returned to its former "under Jim Lewellen" glory, it had to be turned into something different. Although that effort succeeded, it took a couple years for order to emerge from the chaos. The whole transition was a confusing mess to everyone involved, it wasn't like we could just Google a roadmap to tell us where we needed to get to, much less the route there. Everyone involved had to figure it out as it went along.
Mr. Nonperson himself, a fellow whose ties to Fisher were established under the old regime (I believe under Cimino's reign), was suddenly dealing with people in El Paso who didn't know him and he had to figure out what kind of new relationship could emerge. He hung in there for the ride, there were occasional rough spots on both ends, but I'm happy with what came out of the end of that tunnel.
I look forward to the day when Mr. Nonperson can be declared "rehabilitated" or "sentence commuted" or whatever it takes, and this censorship that both impairs the purpose of the forum (communication about relevant stuff) and wastes forum content with posts like this one that deal with forum problems rather than with metal detectors, can be put behind us.
--Dave J.
