I know there's the huge coil, also-but I just got back detecting with my Freedom III with the 71/4" coil and found not pennies BUT QUARTERS that have been passed over by me with the standard coils. Now these aren't new quarters that may have been recently dropped, but patina covered quarters that have been there months. I feel certain my Ace would have picked them up with a 7" coil as this groundhog-type coil seems to be perfect for coins. If Mr. Garrett himself believes that MOST th'ers are coin shooters, why not give them a coin coil? I need to cover ground and the sniper coil would take forever to cover a football field.
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Why are Ace users stuck with only 2 coils?
- Thread starter slingshot
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Man, you're right about that 7" Groundhog being perfect for coins. I have a "TR/VLF Garrett Coin Hunter" with that coil and it is one heck of a coin shooter. I haven't swung it around in ages, but I might dust it off and play around with it some day soon.
You know, that Excellerator 10"x14" double "D" is awesome for the Ace 250 and I don't see it missin' any coins that it passes over. Covers alot of ground quick, too. I know what your sayin' about that sniper, though. That's one heck of a coin shooter. It's the only coil that my wife uses on her Ace. So what, it takes forever to cover a ball field? What's the rush?
Those coins aren't goin' anywhere. They'll still be in the ground waitin' for ya' 'till ya' get to 'em.
Happy Hunting
You know, that Excellerator 10"x14" double "D" is awesome for the Ace 250 and I don't see it missin' any coins that it passes over. Covers alot of ground quick, too. I know what your sayin' about that sniper, though. That's one heck of a coin shooter. It's the only coil that my wife uses on her Ace. So what, it takes forever to cover a ball field? What's the rush?
Those coins aren't goin' anywhere. They'll still be in the ground waitin' for ya' 'till ya' get to 'em.Happy HuntingI have the Ace 250 and have 3 coils.
The 6 x 9 stock coil
The 9 x 12 coil
And the new Excellerator 10"x14" double "D".
Since I put the new Excellerator coil on I haven't taken it off.
You get the depth you need.
Easy to pinpoint.
Light in weight.
True the other coil are great, but we interacted great together.
When we visit Wells, Maine and I hit their beaches and have no complaints using it.
Happy Hunting
Bruce
The 6 x 9 stock coil
The 9 x 12 coil
And the new Excellerator 10"x14" double "D".
Since I put the new Excellerator coil on I haven't taken it off.
You get the depth you need.
Easy to pinpoint.
Light in weight.
True the other coil are great, but we interacted great together.
When we visit Wells, Maine and I hit their beaches and have no complaints using it.
Happy Hunting
Bruce
The stock 6 x 9 inch coil will do the job easily. But once I stuck my 9 x 12 on a year ago it is the coil of choice for me. The only time I take it off it to stick the Sniper on. I think there's 5 coils available for the Ace. The 4.5, 6 x 9, 9 x 12, 10 x 14 dd and a SEF Butterfly dd coil that I believe is 14 inches also.
Alan Applegate
New member
Here's my two cents.
It really doesn't matter much, what the size of the coil is. Yes, there are the depth issues, the ground coverage issues, and for some, that is all that counts. Certainly, the small coils allow for smaller pieces to be detected (i.e.: small gold nuggets?), and the larger ones for depth. However, the REAL key is learning what the detector is telling you, with whatever coil is attached!
There is a really good reason Garrett tells you to use the all-metal mode while you're in the learning process. Far too often, folks think their experience with the Garrett (___fill in the blank) will suffice, and that just isn't the case! Every brand, every model, has it own quirks. Once you learn those, finding any specific object is more reliant on technique, than coil size, model, or experience with some other make or model.
This fact is the reason I get amused by folks who own 5, 6, or even 10 different models. Can they REALLY get acquainted with the individual characteristics and quirks of each one? I personally doubt it.
Alan Applegate
It really doesn't matter much, what the size of the coil is. Yes, there are the depth issues, the ground coverage issues, and for some, that is all that counts. Certainly, the small coils allow for smaller pieces to be detected (i.e.: small gold nuggets?), and the larger ones for depth. However, the REAL key is learning what the detector is telling you, with whatever coil is attached!
There is a really good reason Garrett tells you to use the all-metal mode while you're in the learning process. Far too often, folks think their experience with the Garrett (___fill in the blank) will suffice, and that just isn't the case! Every brand, every model, has it own quirks. Once you learn those, finding any specific object is more reliant on technique, than coil size, model, or experience with some other make or model.
This fact is the reason I get amused by folks who own 5, 6, or even 10 different models. Can they REALLY get acquainted with the individual characteristics and quirks of each one? I personally doubt it.
Alan Applegate
bountyhunter1972
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I own four different models of detectors. I have two Bounty Hunters, a Tesoro and a Ace 250, I have learned all the little quirks with all of them. I have spent much time on all of them, except the Tesoro, just picked that on up, but anyways people can learn all of their machines with time. So it's possible to know many units.
The 10X14 coil that you guys have what kind of depth are you getting with it. Like how deep have you found a dime, a quarter and a penny. Just would like to know so that I can better inform myself when getting one. I have been thinking about it but the 150 price tag is rich for my blood, Kellyco raised the price when they got them back in stock. Was 99 out of stock now back to 150 when they got them in, I kind of think that is bullsh*t to do that. But I don't own the company so what am I to do but suck it up and pay the price. thanks for all you help. have a good hunt boys and girls.
The 10X14 coil that you guys have what kind of depth are you getting with it. Like how deep have you found a dime, a quarter and a penny. Just would like to know so that I can better inform myself when getting one. I have been thinking about it but the 150 price tag is rich for my blood, Kellyco raised the price when they got them back in stock. Was 99 out of stock now back to 150 when they got them in, I kind of think that is bullsh*t to do that. But I don't own the company so what am I to do but suck it up and pay the price. thanks for all you help. have a good hunt boys and girls.
OK, guys. I don't know WHY. All I know is that on the BH Tracker, the Garrett Freedom III, some older Teknetics models, and earlier Garrett models the 7" seems to have the right combination of a small coil and a large coil in one. The area that I found these coins in I have been over and over. On the Tracker, the tonal qualities of the different tones were much more distinct and separated close targets better with hardly any depth at all. Being in a hurry is not the issue and the 4" coil does great for small, trashy areas. Finally, I turn to one of the people I admire and respect, along with Bill and others-Monte-who also has stated in the past about the efficiency of the 7" coil. At first I was going to ignore his advice and get a 5.75" coil for another detector-but after repeating this scenario at about 5 different places now, the OTHER detector will have the 7" coil instead. Although this recent experiment is with the Freedom III, it's from years of experience with other detectors I feel this way. I promise you there is a spit of difference.
Uncle Willy
New member
You might try the "Accelerator" from Kellyco. It's a 14 inh DD.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
Yeah Monte likes those seven inchers and so did I when I was heavy into Tesoro detectors.. I wish Garrett would produce more of a variety of coils for all their machines.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
Well I currently own about ten ( had fourteen or fifteenat one time ) and I got thoroughly acquainted with them as I field tested every one of them, so that theory doesn't always fly.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
But only three are available from Garrett and they pretty well cover the detecting spectrum with a detector as limited in features as the 250 is. Gardiner Electronics made a 36-inch coil for their detectors plus a 12-foot shaft for reaching inside caves. How'd you like to swig that 36 incher out on the end of a 12-foot shaft?
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
But I bet it's a round concentric.
Bill
Bill
I actually think the Ace has GOOD features-I really love mine. I may just get the sniper and take my time. Gosh, Bill-If I had a top-line Garrett with all those features I'd be like a little kid with a new toy-I'd never get any huntin' done for playing with it.Uncle Willy said:But only three are available from Garrett and they pretty well cover the detecting spectrum with a detector as limited in features as the 250 is. Gardiner Electronics made a 36-inch coil for their detectors plus a 12-foot shaft for reaching inside caves. How'd you like to swig that 36 incher out on the end of a 12-foot shaft?
Bill
The only way to compare units is to take them all to the field. This means when you get a beep with one machine then try them all on that target. I hunt a lot of the same places with the same machine and still can get coins each time I hunt. This only means that I didn't get my coil over it the previous times.
Slingshot,
I pride myself on my coil technique and griding capabilities. But I can still pull coins from places I have pounded. Am I just getting better? No. Am I getting my coil over a target at a little different angle? Yes. Has the soil moisture changed? Yes? Do I feel like digging more iffy targets? Yes. You read stories where a hunter has used several machines in their own yard. They believe they have sifted it clean. Then they get a new machine and find a good target. They will write "those other machines are a POS because my new machine hit a quarter at only 2 inches!" I'm paraphrasing here. But to be honest ANY machine would have picked that target up. Then I have to question their technique.... All you have to do is watch the vids on youtube and see all those people sweeping their coils 4 inches above the ground, lifting the coil up at the end of their sweeps and leaving a foot or two in between each sweep. I wonder how many good targets they miss....
I pride myself on my coil technique and griding capabilities. But I can still pull coins from places I have pounded. Am I just getting better? No. Am I getting my coil over a target at a little different angle? Yes. Has the soil moisture changed? Yes? Do I feel like digging more iffy targets? Yes. You read stories where a hunter has used several machines in their own yard. They believe they have sifted it clean. Then they get a new machine and find a good target. They will write "those other machines are a POS because my new machine hit a quarter at only 2 inches!" I'm paraphrasing here. But to be honest ANY machine would have picked that target up. Then I have to question their technique.... All you have to do is watch the vids on youtube and see all those people sweeping their coils 4 inches above the ground, lifting the coil up at the end of their sweeps and leaving a foot or two in between each sweep. I wonder how many good targets they miss....