Why are there------

[D&P-OR]

seemingly so many Omegas comeing up for sale (or trade)?-----Seems like they just KEEP showing up for sale.----I guess it's not really a extra ordinary amount of them at one time but rather a "steady flow" of them (for sale).-----Maybe it's just ordinary #'s (business as usual) when you consider the number of new ones sold.----Then again, maybe I'm just seeing double or triple "for sale" ads!

 

[Hwy 395]

"Maybe it's just ordinary #'s (business as usual) when you consider the number of new ones sold."

I think that's it. It's a popular detector that is selling like crazy. Obviously it won't be everyone's cup of tea, so they sell it.

 

[Furious T]

I agree. I think mine is great, but I could understand it if someone else didn't.

 

[D&P-OR]

Yes, it took the Omega awhile to "catch ahold" before people really started noticeing it (includeing me) to see how good of a little detector it really is.---Then, apparently, the sales really went up on it for FT.----Obviously, it isn't everybodys "cup of tea" (as was already mentioned).---That must be what's happening (after a lot of sales was made).----Then to, if FT would have put that 11' DD coil on it as a stock coil in the first place (like they should have--or come out with that combo package to start with)--you might not see as many comeing up for sale.----In my ground, I DO NOT like that stock 10" concentric coil--but you put the 11" DD on it & it becomes a "different animal" (IMO)-----Could comeing out with the 10" concentric coil on it "soured" some people on that machine? (just a thought)-----In any case, it's a good little detector & the ones that's selling "just don't know what they got"-----RIGHT GUYS? ---------Del

 

[Monte]

I think part of it can be that it's just not what everyone is looking for .... HOWEVER ... too many hobbyists are buying and selling in order to find the "perfect" detector, and it just doesn't exist. There is no one 'perfect' detector that will do everything well. Most ask about and are looking for DEPTH, but aren't willing to recover a reasonably good audio response that doesn't 'lock-on' well. Others want absolute "Lock-On' with virtually no VDI numeric twitching, or to knock out all pull tabs and still get nickels and all rings, and so on and so on. It's just not going to happen.

We all have favorites and I actually think the round concentric 8" coil that comes of the lessor three "Greek" models is a good general-use coil for most people. I didn't like the appearance of the 10" elliptical concentric and wasn't hot on getting it. Matter of fact, that was one reason I held off on getting an Omega to try out. In the end I was the loser because I should have been working with an Omega long ago! As for the 10" concentric, I actually like it. Pinpointing isn't as easy as with a round 8" coil, but it is not bad at all.

For ME, the best accessory coil is the 5" DD. I like the benefits I gain from smaller-than-stock coils and the 5" has done well so far. From my standpoint, I think the 11" DD is a good coil, to be sure. It has its place, but I personally don't think it should have been a standard coil. For some, sure, but not for most who look to get into the hobby or move up from an 'entry level" model to the Omega. The 10" concentric is good as a standard coil.

As for Omegas hitting the Classifieds, I think some of it is because some might not like it, or some what to try something else such as a new Spectra V3/V3i or top-end Minelab, or they are opting for an F-75 or T2 in one of their variants. I guess I need to check the Classifieds because of those of us who own and use and appreciate the Omega, we might luck upon a good deal. That way, you have a "back-up" unit that has a different coil mounted. The instant familiarity is there and all you have to do is grab the specific unit that has the coil you want for a particular take/site.

Even if you kept one coil on a spare lower rod and had one Omega 8000 w/5" mounted and another with either a 10" or 11" DD counted, it would make a great 2-detector set-up. Eliminate a lot of down time to switch coils around. Maybe I'll cruise over to the Classifieds and see what's happening.

Monte

 

[xGregx]

I am selling mine right now, I bought it to use because of its weight I had some problems with my elbow, but i able to use my etrac again and can use the extra cash.

 

[sekypaleo]

Here is my two cents. I came from the analog detectors (big time CZ-5 user). When my wife got into detecting a bought her a Gamma because of weight and having the TID #'s. I DID not like it at first...seemed very noisy and numbers jumped alot. BUT..after I got used to it...I prefered it to my CZ...found it recognizes iron better and goes deeper. Yeh the numbers jump quite a bit, but on a good target they will usually stay in a certain range Ex. Indian head pennys range from 78- 83. I also found if it jumps around in categories..it is almost always trash. I eventually came to like the Gamma enough that I sold my CZ and bought an Omega (one of those good deals you see now)...hope I like it as much as the Gamma!
Now my question is...is the 11" DD coil REALLY worth the money? Or is it hype?

 

[sekypaleo]

I will add this also...I see a good number of E-tracs for sale and and occasional V3. Why sell a detector that DOES it all? Cuz. no detector does it all.

 

[Joenaz]

I too am thinking about selling my Omega. With the 11" coil in all metal mode the Omega is just detecting things way too deep and it's making me work my butt off. My right arm is developing too much muscle and I am in danger of ending up looking like Popeye on one side(not a pretty picture).

 

[lafatlife]

"Now my question is...is the 11" DD coil REALLY worth the money? Or is it hype?"

Yes it is worth the money! I had just the stock coil as I bought my omega last summer. This year I bought the 11" and the separation of iron vs good targets is terrific and the depth is a little bit more.

 

[Keith Southern]

I was so taken by the performance mine is giving me I went ahead and got a second one also with the extra coils to boot.. So Now I am set to hunt any locale worry free and both have the 5 year warranty to boot!

I like the target response the omega offers with the DD's fitted and the full disc range with tone I.D. and light weight makes it a perfect all day swinger especially for covering alot of ground on my Sojourns through the wood's ..Very sweep speed forgiving...And in 2 tone mode lets you hear the iron site's without an ear bashing in the way it sets the iron grunt at a lower volume hit!!

I was using another top brand detector last month when walking the woods and it was a single tone silent search disc and I walked right through a house site without knowing it and I was just running it at nail disc.. So the tone is very beneficial for locating a productive site to say the least..

Now to worry about the G2 when it comes out for the low conductor's I believe it will use the omega coils also!

Keith

 

[Monte]

I was so taken by the performance mine is giving me I went ahead and got a second one also with the extra coils to boot.. So Now I am set to hunt any locale worry free and both have the 5 year warranty to boot!

That is exactly my feeling. One with a 5" DD, one with an 11" DD or 10" Concentric (personal preference making the call. ) and the extra coil at the ready as needed/desired.

I like the target response the omega offers with the DD's fitted and the full disc range with tone I.D. and light weight makes it a perfect all day swinger especially for covering alot of ground on my Sojourns through the wood's ..Very sweep speed forgiving...And in 2 tone mode lets you hear the iron site's without an ear bashing in the way it sets the iron grunt at a lower volume hit!!

Again, it appears we have some similar think-modes in action. I, too, like the 'd2' dual-tone audio to alert me to ferrous trash. I generally hunt with full or nearly full acceptance for just that very reason when hitting fields, woods, or any "old" site in search of prior use. I like the 'd4' when I want more traditional audio for urban coin shooting. Also, I like the All Metal/Auto-Tune mode for it's depth in certain applications.

I was using another top brand detector last month when walking the woods and it was a single tone silent search disc and I walked right through a house site without knowing it and I was just running it at nail disc.. So the tone is very beneficial for locating a productive site to say the least..

Yep!

Now to worry about the G2 when it comes out for the low conductor's I believe it will use the omega coils also!

With that much separation in the frequencies I don't think the 'Teknetics' coils will work, However, I have been known to be wrong on that.

I also think that by the time I get into late May or mid-June I might like the 11" Bi-axial DD coils more than I do now. Best of success to you and your pair of Omega's.

Monte

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[vegas49]

I think the biggest draw back for the teknetics is NO threshold adjustment, which makes AM mode not very useful. I'd love to try the Omega or Gamma, but without
a threshold adjustment it won't happen. Now when the G2 comes out, that's a different story, it will have threshold adjustment like Gold Bug which is a good stable
platform.

HH
Tim

 

[Keith Southern]

once you get over 70 in all metal which is basically full power the more you turn the sens knob it starts to increase the threshold and I must say it works quite well...But if you wanted to say run sens at like 40% you would have no way to adjust...But you would run all metal hot anyway to get the extra depth the disc mode may or may not lack ( slight increase at that .. The Disc Mode is way DEEEEP!)..So It's a very functional set-up..and is very deep also!!! ( With target I.D. working in the all metal mode!!)

I wish I had a video Camera... that's the next on my list of things to get..

I would love to do some video's it's so much easier to see and hear than it is to explain...

I sometimes have hard time explaining what I am thinking!!

But dont be put off by thinking it does not have a threshold adjustment in all metal!!


Keith

 

[Keith Southern]

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[Mr.Bill]

The "Greek" series coils will work with the Gold Bug, and the G2. Dave mentioned that on one of our other forums.

The Gold Bug & the G2 share the same basic circuit, so they both can use the Greek series coils.

One of my friends / customer has a new Gold Bug, and has be using the Omega 11 DD coil on it for some time with proper results. I haven't had time to cross check the other Tek "Greek" coils, but they should work also.

Mr. Bill

 

[D&P-OR]

Well that fact right there ought to help the sales of the new Goldbug (what with it comeing with that small coil).----If the Greek series coils are going to work on it, that ought to be a big plus for both FT & the customer/user.--------Del

 

[Monte]

the All Metal mode with the Sensitivity control.

I think the biggest draw back for the teknetics is NO threshold adjustment, which makes AM mode not very useful. I'd love to try the Omega or Gamma, but without a threshold adjustment it won't happen.

I've found the Omega to be quite responsive, and worked well when you set the Threshold adjustment. I am referring to hunting in the All Metal mode. Note that it suggests you adjust the Sensitivity control in the All Metal mode until you hear a slight background audio hum .... (a Threshold audio) when you want to adjust for a proper Ground Balance.

The Discriminate mode of operation is essentially silent-search except you can adjust the Sensitivity high enough to hear some instability in some applications or you might have to reduce it if hunting in a very noisy (EMI) site, but All Metal mode does provide the ability to adjust for a workable audio Threshold audio (as described in the GB procedures on page 15 of the Owner's Manual).

Monte

 

[Monte]

n/t