Will These New Imaging Detectors Destroy Our Hobby By Cleaning Everything Out?

[Critterhunter]

Disclaimer: I've only saw a small Kellyco add for these new machines so I don't know how good they are, but from the picture it appears to be a compact unit the same configuration and size of normal detectors...but with a color imaging screen that shows a picture of the coin under the coil. If this is true (Maybe the ad is misleading?) and they get say 12" of depth then that will in my opinion spell the death of this hobby. All public sites will be cleaned out of old coins, rings, and other good finds. What will be left is ring hunting in the water for what was dropped the night before, clad shooting at newer schools that nobody will bother with because of no potential for old coins, and hunting private property. Old coin hunting or ring hunting at old parks will be pointless because it'll all be gone.

Now that I've stepped out on a limb somebody can set me straight here because I only saw a small ad, and we all know how that can be deceiving. On the other hand, if it's not true it is going to happen some day and that will be sad to see. The hobby will eat it's self. No more mystery or finds to still be had at worked out sites. Kind'a like fishermen fishing a fish to extinction and then having nothing left to do. At least with conventional detector technology there will always be finds left to be made for years to come. Not so if you can see a picture of the target before digging it.

Now I just have to go on kellyco and see that I was way off.

 

[Critterhunter]

PS- The ad I saw featured a screen showing individual coins being presented on the screen, not some huge target, so I would assume the see single coins.

 

[Bugar In. USA]

Think on this-if you got thousands of dollars to spend on a metal detector, you not gonna even be interested in buyin a metal detector grubbin around and diggin coins and piddlin stuff, besides that you don't want nobody telling you how to use it , cause you so smart you got lots of money to pi-- away, and don't need to learn anything else, druther not git dirty just float around on your boat and drink mai tai's.
Nope it's not gonna hurt us any, besides if it was soooo good, wouldn't need to advertise it

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Critter, not sure which ad you're referring to. How about you (or someone) post a link?

The pixel size on any such shape-showing imaging detectors, is about 1" across. Thus, a coin, a pulltab, a square tab, a foil blotch, etc.. etc... etc.. will all be: 1 pixel across! Ie.: a single pixel. You will have gained no information about your target. Heck, even a horse-shoe or some such object you might *think* would be a revealing horse-show shaped image, will simply be: a messy blotch of pixels.

No, they do not have the resolution to show individual coin round shapes. Unless someone can show me differently, and assuming the advertising is even true, to begin with (far be it for a company to exaggerate! Afterall, doesn't Whites also "show you what's in the ground before you dig it" too? )


Unless someone can actually show this information to be false, I believe therefore, it's the advertisement that is mis-leading. But, consider the XLT for instance: So too does it show a little "pulltab" icon, or "ring" icon, or "quarter" icon, when you hit on a TID of that range, right? Does that mean it's showing you a pix of the item you're about to dig? Of course not. But you'd be amazed at how many people think it's doing just that. Why? Because they saw the late night TV ad, of course

 

[Joel-Winnipeg]

I wouldnt lose any sleep over that one.
No place is every hunted out.
They'll leave the pull tabs out so you'll still find something

 

[hershey1]

They have been advertising those machines for a couple of years in Lost Treasure and Eastern/Western treasure magazines. Accurate Detectors also sells them. I think they start out around $2995.00 and go up to around$7000.00. E-Trac $1400.00 Excallibur II 1100.00 Whites V3i $ $1800.00 Soveriegn GT $ 950.00. BUT these are all proven winners. Almost forgot the AT Pro. Then add the accesories( scoop, pin-pointer, relic shovel, digger, headphones, gas and beer ect. you can always sell empty cans if you don't find enough stuff. We have all invested a lot of money into this hobby with the best technology we can afford so until we see these machines work as advertised hopefully we keep on keeping on. And if they do work as advertised the companies SHOULD donate a few to our men and women in uniform to find MINES.

 

[Jim Walker]

One thing to remember, people lose items every day. While sure you may not be able to find a old silver coin at some public park. People still lose rings and other stuff to find. If you limit your self to hunting public parks, I would think it is time to branch out. First start with your friends house. Then talk to their friends. And it goes on from their. Being friendly goes a long way. You will find that some people do not want some one in their yard, but if you do not ask you will never know. This is what I do. I started with friends and branched out. Now I have lots of places to go and I know a lot more people. Sure their can be a few problems, but if you have a written permission paper, you cover your base. I have hunted places where people with $4k detectors never would have a chance to step foot. An I always treat people with respect and I am friendly to them. I have even given them some of the finds I have found. I do this so they feel like they get something out of it as well. An if they lose something they have my card, and will call me to help them find jewelry they lost. Which has led to me getting cash rewards. Which I do not ask for, but I do not refuse them. I know that every place is never hunted all out. Here is a link of what I use.....
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Permission to Metal Detect on Private Property

http://www.tc-rc.com/word-pdf/permission%20form.pdf

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Joel, what you have to realize, is the people reading these ads, are led to believe that they can effortlessly leave pulltabs behind, and NOT miss gold rings. Because you see, they think they will see a magical "pulltab" shape on their imaging detector (yup, complete with the beaver tail, etc...).

This is utterly fraught with problems. Because, even IF the pixel resolution could be brought down to hundredth of inches across (so, for example, a gold class ring looked different than soda-can pull ring), there are of course millions of tabs with no beaver tail on them, which might look exactly like a gold class ring. And there are millions of different gold rings, with millions of different "crowns" on them (thicker on one end, verses the others, stone or no stone, etc...). And a BIG factor is this: the second you add even the slightest tilt to the object, you can kiss shape-showing good-bye anyhow.

But it's all a mute point. The resolution of 1 inch across pixel size simply won't allow for any image to be anything but a single pixel, or blotch of pixels.

 

[Ism]

When Kellyco starts selling LRL's you will find them on the same page.

 

[slingshot]

Just the opposite. People will start believing the screen,just as they do now and leave stuff behind.

 

[BusDigger]

You'll be far-far ahead by spending less on some "best thing on the market" MD.....and invest more of your time into researching, and asking permission to properties that others haven't.

Smitty

 

[Critterhunter]

They showed a few coins in the pic and they were not single pixels but rather color images with detail. That being said, I'm sure it's probably an exageration?

 

[nw1886]

These things have to be a real marketing ploy. At least one of us here would have bought one, shouted out how everything else is garbage, became wealthy, and retired to some paradise.....[Place Location Here]. We can dream though!

 

[John(Tx)]

it would have to be some type of Xray which wouldn't be good for you. That would mean it would have to have some type of radiation, not very likely that would be allowed, especially here in the U.S. Just don't think this is for real.....HH

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Yes, and you would also have to have a receiving field on the other side of the target (like medical x-rays have), and yes, have to wear a lead apron or suit or whatever. "Fish Finder" radar can be much more resolute, and go longer distances, because the medium it is going through is water, which is like air. The signals encounter nothing, till they hit a fixed object. Unlike ground, which is ENTIRELY a "fixed object".

Forget shape though, even if it WERE possible, to come down to hundredth of inches, since ... the moment you add object tilt, it becomes useless anyhow. What I'd really like to see is, a machine that can discern object composition, not shape, and not conductivity. If the day comes when you can pass aluminum in favor of only gold, who cares what "shape" it's in? Ie.: pendants, verses bracelets, verses rings, verses gold coins, etc....