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working the grass.

pinpointa

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Here are the implements i use to detect in grass areas. No cutting and damaging the grass Pinpointing with the coiltek joey is a sinch. Using the probe rod a lot of times the coins are on there flat so i use the screw driver to put them on there side and take them out with the doctors forceps.If they are standing on their edge easy just lift them out.

Regards Pinpointa.
 
That's impressive! I would like to see that. As magical as metal detectors themselves seem to the uninitiated, that would surely astound the average gawker.

But in reality, I'm curious. How deep does this method work? How do you go about recovering a 9"-11" deep target? I'm assuming this is a method used only for maybe 6" and less. That's not a problem, I suppose, since that's where the majority are found.

I like it!
Toby

P.S. You're a surgeon in real life, aren't you?
 
That's a pretty neat looking setup you got there. Are you sure you don't work in the ER, down at the local hospital.:| Looks like a pretty "surgically oriented" process to me, but, honestly, I'm very curious too, as to the whole process. I'm wondering if you pull a plug out first, check the plug with your coil, then use the forceps and screw driver to pick it out. The main thing I'd be worried about is scratching the coin, but I guess if your careful, you might be ok. I've always wondered about the scratching the coin thing with a screwdriver. Honestly, and I've heard at least the screwdriver idea for years, without the forceps, but I'm honestly not sure about the process.:| I'd like to get into much more grass hunting too. As long as I can put the plug back ok to not get the park ranger angry and also make it look good.
 
I think the idea here is to avoid cutting a plug at all. First he pinpoints to a precise spot (yes, it can be done with practice). Next, stick the probe down to the depth of the coin until the probe touches the coin. Again, with practice you can tell if you're touching a coin or a rock. You can get a feel of where the edges of the coin are and how it is lying. Then, use the screwdriver in a similar fashion, except this time you're going for the edge of the coin so you can sort of pry it up so that an edge is pointing upwards. Lastly, use the forceps to reach down in and grab the edge of the coin and slide it out. No digging. No plug. No hole to fill.

It's a method that may not work in all environments. If the ground is really hard (i.e. dry packed clay, or very rocky, etc) then you may be struggling. But in good soil it is the cleanest method of recovery.

Toby
 
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Hi Beachguy,
Well i have had a lot of expereince dysecting coins like finding coins that have been hit by the lawn mower and putting the date back on it, and putting the queens head where it should be, trying to put the hole in the holley dollar and dumping it. Trying to get pounds and pounds of coins, getting a sovereign in half, probing a penny and putting the tail back on the kangaroo, getting 3 pence out of threepence, doubling it and get a zack, that is slang for our sixpence,ramming a shilling out of the hole, getting crowned now and then and laughing with a kookaburra half and one penny. And then changing the currency with not much cents and dollaring around. Well thats a bit about our currency. Well when i use my procedure to retreive the coins i do not cut the grass i probe the coin gently these things are frail use the rod with precision in the hole you no what i mean your an old guy and you have been around. Slowly gets the results when you have recovered the coin on, or near the surface to 6 inches down mostly after finding the coin if it is on its flat turn it on its side with the screw driver and lift it out with the forceps. If you want a pair of forceps wait till some one has had an op you should be lucky to find a pair inside. Your right beachguy you will soon get stopped by the rangers if you cut the grass and you stuff it up for everybody. Well if i were in the States and had the liberty to disect a buffalo, probe an eagle, quarterise a nickle, grab a indian by the head and be able to cut up some wheat cents for breakfast. He Ha. Just Joking.

Regards Pinpointa. :nopity:



Copyright pinpointa 19/11/2006
 
I actually found a pair of what looks like those forceps you have there. Found them on the goldfields, really old. If I can just find them, may post you a photo!
Golden:)
 
the recovery can be fairly quick with practice and maybe the extra added aid of a good electronic probe, if the soil conditions allow.

Who on earth would be game ever queistion or argue with us or acuse us of digging a hole that might damage, when using best practices and teqnique and with tools that like that.(Expect there to be anyway.)

Nothing there in those implements/tools, looks anything like it would do more than than just simply be something you could poke into the grass. Given the fact that this is what they are for, then it might be said that you are a "moonlighting surgeon". looking for extra work and practising low intrusive surgery...........on the dirt through the grass. Honestly, if someone is going to ask such a dumb question then maybe, as a last, resort give this one. Telling them that you are practising for retrieving UXB or UXO works well in getting their attention. Just don't suggest the existance of any where you are looking because that opens up another big can of worms.

Minimal amount of fuss and almost no visiual disturbance.
The very actions of using such tools in itself indicates that , as a metal detectorist, YOU DO CARE and are not being too selfish.

In actual fact, it could be easily said that the retrievel actions needed to get the buried object, would actually benefit the grass if anything.If this is not a valid point then they should kill of the worms that are there.

Now all we need is a uniform that looks like that of a medical surgeon. Offer cheap brain surgery to the idiot who would dare challenge one on this target retrieval method and/or "digging" technique simply because it looks intrusive.

Power to the "lowest intrusion target retrieval brigade" that will help to ensure tolerence of metal detecting in public parks for years to come. If it looks like you've never been then it will NEVER be a big problem to many at all.

I still have my Lesche and various other digging implements but they need to be used with dicretion.:cheers:

Hard Nosed Dave
 
That's amazing. I think you'd need considerable practice and skill, but sounds great if you can do it. I wonder if a rookie like me should put some kind of rubber covering over the end of the screwdriver and forceps? Just a thought.
 
Man they don't call you "pinpointa" for nothing. It sounds like it takes quite a bit of skill to do all that, and I love the way your describing all the coins. That just about went over my head, but it was funny. I may have to try it some time, especially if I'm gonna have the rangers on my butt for trying to do it the other way.:puke:
 
Hey, where's Bill Murray, or that mad doctor from Back to the Future, when we need them. They'd work out good for the mad doctor part. Boy, this sounds serious. I guess I better look into it, somehow. You know I actually deliver stuff to a bunch of the hospitals around town. Maybe they'd get me an old pair of forceps they're not using or something, or possible at some medical supply place. I swear, though, it sounds so difficult to do, but I guess you guys are pulling it off, and of course, being a whole lot less obtrusive than cutting a plug. If I did the plug, I'd certainly put the plug back in the hole, but I can see where they'd probably frown on that a lot more than just poking the grass, so to speak. It sure would be fun to wear the lab coat one day doing it and see what kind of onlookers you'd get. As long as it isn't the ground maintenance guy or ranger.:|
 
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