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You figure it out. Took the SE out one more time just to be sure.

Bob Lewis

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Got to my hunting spot and fired it up. Set the gain back up to 5 from 3. Thats where I always have it set, did the noise cancel as always and and this time lowered the Sen. to 28. Hunted all day and had no problems that I am aware of. Dug a Hard times Token at about 8"or 9". Came in like a Half dollar until I pulled the plug then it jumped right up to the corner like its supposed to. Dug some clad and everything came in on the screen like it should.
Going to take it out tomorrow to a different location and see what happens.
BTW the token is trash but its the first Hard times token I've found.
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Glad to hear that it's working fine. One thing you said bothers me. You said you LOWERED the sensitivity to 28. Where WERE you running it before? I think 28 is too high for most spots and if you run more than that it would surprise me if it DIDN'T go nuts.

I can tell you this. There are a number of targets buried in my test garden that the machine will hit nicely at 20 and will not hit at 24. It's bad ground. Too much sensitivity and it won't work worth a damn. My two cents.
 
Bob, I have never found a place i could run Sensitivity that high. Even on a 5in. coil. Here in Oregon around 20 in max, and when I was back East it was about the same.

Jerry
 
I have found that a lower sesitivity works much better. I almost never go higher than 22 and the most I ever run is 24 and that is not real often.
 
Nice Hard Times Token even though it is in bad shape. You would even do better I think if you lower the Sensitivity down to 22 if you are in a junky area. I have been running my Explorer XS at 22 Semi-Auto for a few months now and I run Fast On and I have no problems getting coins 10"+ with it set up like this. Lets hope the SE doesn't go haywire again and the best of luck to you. Good Luck and HH.
 
a lot of people don't realize that a higher sensivity can be a bad thing. The sensivity adjusts the receiver gain and by over driving it you do more harm than good.


No wonder Bob's machine was going nuts. I think everyone needs to take it a little slower before saying that there is a problem with the SE. I too have been running mine higher than I should.
 
You probably know this already but for those that don't ... read on.
When I set the sens on my Explorer, I set it up to the point of instability (cursor jumping all over the screen) and then back it down until the detector completely stabilizes.
And you NEVER want to noise cancel starting with a high sens setting to begin with.
It doesn't matter how high you set the sens when in AUTO because the Explorer will tune itself DOWN to become stable and that usually means a much lower setting than you can achieve manually, resulting in less depth. Even if you have it set wide open in AUTO, it's NOT running wide open in reality. Auto simply means the Explorer is making the decision for you ... like it or not :)
However, it depends on the site too and when it's the right time to run on the verge of instability like a wide open area where targets are known to be deep.
The Explorer still hunts very deep with the sens set up in the teens and overall STABILITY is what you are really looking for and it leaves the detector "less stressed" !

Mike
 
I think I would even reduce it more. 28 is still way too high. I turned my down today to a 20 and it seems to be working fine.

Glad you are getting yours working good now. No need to send back a working detector.

I think the SE's are working as they are suppose to with the exception of a few bad displays.
 
I can max out my sen. in 90% of the fields that I hunt. If you read my first posts a few days ago I dug 31 large coppers if one field and the average depth was 12 to 14 inches. This was with the X-Terra 70 and the 10" DD coil. Awesome little machine.
 
Wow Bob,
I like your huntin' grounds!
Looks like Daniel Boone country.
No grizzlys I hope!!!

HH

Snowy
 
I think I've got this one figured out. the SE is a little more sensitive than the XSII. I just had to find the right combination.
 
You said, It doesn't matter how high you set the sens when in AUTO because the Explorer will tune itself DOWN to become stable and that usually means a much lower setting than you can achieve manually, resulting in less depth. Even if you have it set wide open in AUTO, it's NOT running wide open in reality. Auto simply means the Explorer is making the decision for you ... like it or not

Mike not on my new SE, that was true on my XS, but when i set the SE at 32 auto it freaks out in my area. Makes me curious if minelab changed something in how far auto moves down. Unless there is something haywire with my SE.

Jerry
 
Playing with the gain will clear up the tones on the target and the numbers will be a little more stable on the deeper stuff. For my area I run as hot as I can run even with a little noise and I think everyone has to find out how it runs in there area. I think the SE is really a better machine then my old Exp ll hands down. Especially when you get into the trash and the iron. I am lucky, my ground is pretty good and I can get some smoking depth just like you can. You just got to play around with the SE and get the right combo.of sen and gain to get you best depth in the area you are in at the time. The SE is not a Exp ll just as the XS is not a EXP ll. All three machines have there differences. You just have to understand that, once you do, then you will be on your way to some really good finds and really understanding the SE. You could not give me my old Exp ll back, not even as a back up, knowing how much better my SE hunts over the EXP ll. OK I am out of here and back to lurking. :D: :D: :bouncy: Later Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
nothing is wrong with your SE, it simply means that the SE will reach instability faster than your XS did in the same dirt and it wouldn't run at those higher settings locked in manual either without going crazy.
But in neutral ground and away from any outside RF you should be able to run ramped up in auto and have the processor take over and tune itself down for stability.
But to answer your question directly ... nothing is wrong with your SE as long as you can get stability at reasonable sens.
Sorry if my post was confusing.
H.H.
Mike
 
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