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Your thoughts on the( 6 version) Omega please
- Thread starter Elton
- Start date
Elton I just got a Omega with version '05' and from what I can tell so far, it's handles emi better than my version '04' did. Someone stated that the only difference between the '05' and the '06' is the embedded serial number. I haven't had a chance to get out and do any serious testing with it, because of the weather. I think I'm going to like it though. What little testing that I have done, it seems to lock on to VDI numbers well at good depth even with the sensitivity set around '70'. The high audio tone comes in loud and clear even at the lower sensitivity setting. The high tone audio seems to be better modulated than the previous version. I had to use full sensitivity on version '04' to be able to hear the high audio tone on deeper targets since the threshold and sensitivity are controlled by a single knob.
tabman
tabman
Elton said:
On the '04' version the threshold didn't start to kick in until you turned the sensitivity past 60. The only way for my ears to hear the high tone audio on deep faint targets was to keep the sensitivity set high. That caused emi problems. On the '05' version the high tone audio seems louder at the lower sensitivity settings. I tried to get info from the company about the version change, but I heard nothing but crickets. They made the version change, maybe they can explain it better than I can or know.
tabman
MarkCZ
Well-known member
From the Omega's manual (version 4)
1. SENSITIVITY:
a. Click right to turn on. Click left to turn off.
b. Turning the knob clockwise increases the detector’s sensitivity; the
higher the sensitivity, the deeper targets will be detected, and the more
likely the detector will be to detect very small targets.
c. As you turn the knob, notice that the SETTING value at the bottom-right
of the screen will display your current sensitivity setting.
d. The sensitivity has two ranges. From 0 to 70, the sensitivity increases
on a linear scale. Above 71, the sensitivity threshold level starts
changing. At values greater than 70, some internal circuit noise will be
noticed. The higher the number, the higher this background “static” will
be. Many seasoned detectorists prefer to operate at high sensitivity
level, with the accompanying noise. They call this “working into the
noise” When some background level of noise is audible, small changes
in the volume and tone will denote the presence of buried metal.
Mark
1. SENSITIVITY:
a. Click right to turn on. Click left to turn off.
b. Turning the knob clockwise increases the detector’s sensitivity; the
higher the sensitivity, the deeper targets will be detected, and the more
likely the detector will be to detect very small targets.
c. As you turn the knob, notice that the SETTING value at the bottom-right
of the screen will display your current sensitivity setting.
d. The sensitivity has two ranges. From 0 to 70, the sensitivity increases
on a linear scale. Above 71, the sensitivity threshold level starts
changing. At values greater than 70, some internal circuit noise will be
noticed. The higher the number, the higher this background “static” will
be. Many seasoned detectorists prefer to operate at high sensitivity
level, with the accompanying noise. They call this “working into the
noise” When some background level of noise is audible, small changes
in the volume and tone will denote the presence of buried metal.
Mark
My memory was a little fresher a couple of years ago back when I was using the '04' version. http://www.findmall.com/read.php?58,1855367
I also discovered and posted back then that the 8 inch concentric coil that came stock on the Gamma worked better handling the EMI than the stock 10 inch concentric coil that came on the Omega. The NEL Sharpshooter worked even better on the Omega.
Like I said, I haven't had much time to test the '05' but I do know that it's substantially better than the '04'. I really do know how to operate a sensitivity control knob.
tabman
I also discovered and posted back then that the 8 inch concentric coil that came stock on the Gamma worked better handling the EMI than the stock 10 inch concentric coil that came on the Omega. The NEL Sharpshooter worked even better on the Omega.
Like I said, I haven't had much time to test the '05' but I do know that it's substantially better than the '04'. I really do know how to operate a sensitivity control knob.
tabman
detectingMO
New member
I've had 2 version 04's and now have an 05. It was a 2011 model with guts replaced to 05. 05 and 06 are the same. 06 is newest builds since last summer when they started embedding serials in their detectors. There is a 15khz filter to help with emi on a harmonic. Also minor tweak for big silver I think
My current one also got a new coil. It is 1" deeper in air test on Quarter, 13" in 3 tone and emi for 11 DD. Id's say it's a bit quieter overall. maybe 20% or so. I can hit my buried 7" dime and 8" quarter at 50 sensitivity(emi). It could BARELY hit a 8" fresh buried dime at 85 sensitivity(very little EMI).
So summary, little more punch and a little less noise. You could run it all day long 60-70 sens with zero noise and get all targets to 8" depth. If you like it hot and fringe depth you will still need to deal with some noise, just not quite as much.
I have it currently pared with my F19 with 5" sharp, 10x5 dd, 11" dd, and Ultimate. It's a pretty nice setup. Everyone is different but for me the omega is like a round object vacuum. So light, fast, and accurate on ID. Note, I have pretty mild soil.
Not quite as accurate or deep as say a Minelab Etrac but it comes close at a much better price.
Also, if you are willing to run one or two tone you will get even more depth and less emi.
I did notice that disc 16-17 no longer silence iron grunt on 17-39 iron vdi targets. I don't know if it makes it better or worse at unmasking but that was one of my favorite "bugs" of the older versions. Turn sensitivity up, disc 16, ground balance GO!
My current one also got a new coil. It is 1" deeper in air test on Quarter, 13" in 3 tone and emi for 11 DD. Id's say it's a bit quieter overall. maybe 20% or so. I can hit my buried 7" dime and 8" quarter at 50 sensitivity(emi). It could BARELY hit a 8" fresh buried dime at 85 sensitivity(very little EMI).
So summary, little more punch and a little less noise. You could run it all day long 60-70 sens with zero noise and get all targets to 8" depth. If you like it hot and fringe depth you will still need to deal with some noise, just not quite as much.
I have it currently pared with my F19 with 5" sharp, 10x5 dd, 11" dd, and Ultimate. It's a pretty nice setup. Everyone is different but for me the omega is like a round object vacuum. So light, fast, and accurate on ID. Note, I have pretty mild soil.
Not quite as accurate or deep as say a Minelab Etrac but it comes close at a much better price.
Also, if you are willing to run one or two tone you will get even more depth and less emi.
I did notice that disc 16-17 no longer silence iron grunt on 17-39 iron vdi targets. I don't know if it makes it better or worse at unmasking but that was one of my favorite "bugs" of the older versions. Turn sensitivity up, disc 16, ground balance GO!
Good info.
MarkCZ
Well-known member
Tabman, the information I posted from the Omega manual was in response to what "Elton wrote" and not directed at you at all.
I responded to this!
Elton, the Omega and the F5 are very close to one another, the Omega came out later and has the same platform as the F5, or one might say that the Omega was a build-off (spinoff) of the F5 in which some things were combined and simplified.
Mark.
You Wrote said:
I responded to this!
Elton said:
Elton, the Omega and the F5 are very close to one another, the Omega came out later and has the same platform as the F5, or one might say that the Omega was a build-off (spinoff) of the F5 in which some things were combined and simplified.
Mark.
Mark I wasn't directly responding to you. I was primarily responding to the link that I posted. It seems as if there were some excuses being made at the time for the Omega being a little chatty. Like maybe people were using too much sensitivity? The problem that I was having was being able to hear the high audio tone when I reduced the sensitivity in an attempt make the Omega more stable in a high emi environment. The one knob controlling two things seem to be causing the issue. It looks like they're beginning to address the issue. I think that I'm going to like the '05' version better.
tabman
tabman