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Deus 2 FMF 9 inch coil and icon remote frequencies

bigtim1973

bigtim1973

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I purchased an icon remote. Not the icon x.
I paired it with my Deus 2 coil and have 3 selectable mono frequencies to choose from instead of the 2 that the stock coil options has.

The stock coil selectable mono frequencies for the icon are 4khz and 14khz

Paired with the FMF 9 inch Deus 2 coil it becomes 4.4khz, 17.6khz and 32khz.

I am well pleased with that.

I have emailed XP to ask them what the highest FMF frequency is while running in FMF mode and I will update this when I hear back.

So far it is a neat little remote. The remote is smaller than I thought it would be. The screen is not that much bigger than the Deus 2 while running the large numbers.

It hits everything in my test bed but not as good as my Deus 2 does.

I do like it though and I think it is a neat set up for parks and around old house sites and some relic hunting as well. I am not a beach guy so I cannot comment on that.

For average detecting though I think it will be a good unit.
 
bigtim1973 said:
I purchased an icon remote. Not the icon x.
I paired it with my Deus 2 coil and have 3 selectable mono frequencies to choose from instead of the 2 that the stock coil options has.

The stock coil selectable mono frequencies for the icon are 4khz and 14khz

Paired with the FMF 9 inch Deus 2 coil it becomes 4.4khz, 17.6khz and 32khz.

I am well pleased with that.

I have emailed XP to ask them what the highest FMF frequency is while running in FMF mode and I will update this when I hear back.

So far it is a neat little remote. The remote is smaller than I thought it would be. The screen is not that much bigger than the Deus 2 while running the large numbers.

It hits everything in my test bed but not as good as my Deus 2 does.

I do like it though and I think it is a neat set up for parks and around old house sites and some relic hunting as well. I am not a beach guy so I cannot comment on that.

For average detecting though I think it will be a good unit.
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Oldhouse sites, interesting. Can you explain in more detail?
 
Old house places, relic hunting in fields and parks I think it will be a great performing unit.

With detecting in places where there may be deeper targets at the edge of the icons ability the icon x with its enhanced audio settings should sound off louder on deeper signals but I cannot confirm this as I just have the icon remote and not the icon x remote.

It may perform better on deeper targets with the 11 inch coil that it comes with compared to the 9 inch I have it paired with but I cannot verify this either.


You will definitely have some better sounding deeper targets with the Deus 2 enhanced audio settings as I have noticed this in my test garden with my own Deus 2.

I noticed in the icon manual that the audio options available it does say enhanced on the icon x.

Thats about as best as I can explain it.
 
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Also for those who have a set of non stereo first edition ws6 backphones the icon will pair with those with the 4.2 version firmware.

The only difference is when it is paired you do not have the option of speaker choices during the initial turn on. So you have to go into the menu to turn the icon volume off if you just want to use the back phones.

The WS 6 when paired to the icon will also turn off when you turn off the icon remote.

Also when the ws6 is paired with the icon remote without the icon being turned on acts as a normal Deus 2.
 
When icon control is paired to FMF coil.
Try the following.
Place dime on top of Nickle.
Go through the different Channels and sweep. Note ID.
Then pair Deus 2 control to FMF coil.
Go to 40 max band.
Sweep dime on top of nickel. Note ID.
I would almost bet you’ll see same ID between the 2 coils.
Now you can switch when paired using Deus 2 control to both FMF and icon coil.
Repeat. Run Deus 2 control and pair each the FMF coil and check and pair icon coil and check.
And run Deus 2 controller to 24 max band and check the different bands.
ID likely to read higher. Why? Lower being used.

PS.
When you change channels (noise cancel channels ) expect to see some ID change.
This goes for using the 40 max band as welllmas the 24 max band.
Does icon have a 24 max band? You’ll find out if you do the above using the clad dime on top of nickel.

Now, if you have hf2 using with icon control. I believe there is a freq difference.. meaning beach program runs lower freq than land.
Again doing the dime on top of nickle will expose this.

You may be wondering how I know all this. Remember I don’t have an icon control or icon coin.
Well, a few quick over the phone tests with a friend I suggested him to do. Revealed some things. Again using the clad dime placed on top of nickel.
 
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Ok so going back to deeper targets using the Deus 2 compared to the icon.

Without using backphones the Deus 2 has a louder response compared to the icon will while swinging over deeper targets while just using the speaker on the remote.

I decided to try the icon with a set of backphones and the audio is much better on deeper targets coming through the backphones. Almost as good as targets that are not as deep compared to how it sounded with just the icons speaker on the remote

It seems to be a louder signal through the backphones compared to just the remote speaker with the volume turned up all the way on the icon remote. The sound is louder more so than you would think it would be compared to other detectors I have used with headphones in the past.

With that said it does hit better than I initially thought however you will need a set of backphones to get the best performance out of the icon.
 
bigtim1973 said:
Ok so going back to deeper targets using the Deus 2 compared to the icon.

Without using backphones the Deus 2 has a louder response compared to the icon will while swinging over deeper targets while just using the speaker on the remote.

I decided to try the icon with a set of backphones and the audio is much better on deeper targets coming through the backphones. Almost as good as targets that are not as deep compared to how it sounded with just the icons speaker on the remote

It seems to be a louder signal through the backphones compared to just the remote speaker with the volume turned up all the way on the icon remote. The sound is louder more so than you would think it would be compared to other detectors I have used with headphones in the past.

With that said it does hit better than I initially thought however you will need a set of backphones to get the best performance out of the icon.
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Icon units I believe can be run with wired headphones but you need adapter.
I don’t see the adapter on xp’s site.
I’ll try to show this adapter next week. Have a unit coming my way sometime next week with the bone conductive headphones as well. It’s be icon x model. With the adapter and wired hesdphones would be cheaper than the module with backphones for folks not wanting to spend more vs less.
I do want to see how loud the wired hesdphones are though.
I’ll try to show some video with the unit.
 
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squirrel1 said:
Icon units I believe can be run with wired headphones but you need adapter.
I don’t see the adapter on xp’s site.
I’ll try to show this adapter next week. Have a unit coming my way sometime next week with the bone conducive hesdphones as well. It’s be icon x model. Wdpsfer with wired hesdphones would be cheaper than the module with bwckphones for folks not sent to spend more vs less.
I do want to see how loud the wired hesdphones are though.
I’ll try to show some video with the unit.
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There is one thing I do wish XP would have done for those fellows who beach detect and wade out into the shallow water.

I think it would have been better to have had the charging port closed off with a threaded style plug similar to the Deus 2.

I think it would be a better design than the plug that is held on more less by a friction fit.

I guess their idea is the bone conductive headphones will do the job but it just does not seem to be a very robust design.

It isn't easy to take the plug out of the remote. While water wading swinging the dector back and forth or laying aside while retrieving a target with a large scoop one would have to tether the machine to themself. You will have to relieve the stress where the bone conductive headphones attach to the remote.
 
squirrel1 said:
Icon units I believe can be run with wired headphones but you need adapter.
I don’t see the adapter on xp’s site.
I’ll try to show this adapter next week. Have a unit coming my way sometime next week with the bone conductive headphones as well. It’s be icon x model. With the adapter and wired hesdphones would be cheaper than the module with backphones for folks not wanting to spend more vs less.
I do want to see how loud the wired hesdphones are though.
I’ll try to show some video with the unit.
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Did you order a complete unit or just the remote?
 
squirrel1 said:
YouTuber Mowerdog I think has said the very same thing you are talking about just recently.
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I did see that video today in which he said the part about the o-ring and he is correct.

I did suggest he would benefit using a set of headphones or backphones but he replied he prefers not to use them.

That is going to be a problem if he ever decides to take it to the beach with all of the wind and waves coming in.
 
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squirrel1 said:
Icon units I believe can be run with wired headphones but you need adapter.
I don’t see the adapter on xp’s site.
I’ll try to show this adapter next week. Have a unit coming my way sometime next week with the bone conductive headphones as well. It’s be icon x model. With the adapter and wired hesdphones would be cheaper than the module with backphones for folks not wanting to spend more vs less.
I do want to see how loud the wired hesdphones are though.
I’ll try to show some video with the unit.
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With that said about using wired headphones with the adapter designed for it by XP.....I am wondering how the volume will work.

By having the adapter in the remote while using a set of headphones, how will the volume of the remote act then?

Will it automatically bypass the internal volume with the adapter plugged in? Will the volume settings on the remote operate just the headphones? Or will the speaker on the remote have to be used in unison with the headphones while plugged in? I mention this as there is no option to turn the speaker off on the remote. It is either on with what setting you want or off.

I guess we will find out next week!!
 
The usb-c to 3.5 mm audio jack can be had on eBay cheap. Like $3.
Guess they would work with icon models.
I’ll bet Xp through a dealer will charge more for one.
Need to see the one thst comes with unit.
 
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