I purchased the SEF 10 x 12 coil a few weeks back. Still trying to figure out why I bought it. Its not discriminatiing at all. I have never pulled more bottle caps in my life (which come up in the mid 80's). Dont think I have ever pulled one with the standard 9". It may be a little deeper on Pennies but silver? Just this week I hit a Merc at 4" but it did not give a solid signal. It was iffy on the bars and VDI bounced. Pennies are coming up in the 80's. Are the VDI numbers different for the SEF coils? Only thing it hits hard is foil, bottle caps and Pennies. Could it be a bad coil? Sorry about the rant, just a little confussed right now and dont like to waste $190.00. Thank You.