5 wheats, 5 copper pennies, 5 zincs, 5 clad dimes, 2 clad quarters and (1) 1925d merc in fine-$12 coin, and a rusty Zippo lighter
Trash: 9 screw tops, no way around them I can think of as they all hit 12-40 and 12-41, Guess if you didn't dig dimes maybe
Need to stay away from BBQ pits in the park.
Large chunk of aluminum foil about the size of a baseball but flat; read 12-40 at 4 inches- thought it was a dime
4 good size chunks of aluminum cans 2 x2 inches, all again read 12-40 and 12-41 only about 4 inches
2 heavy bolts that read 1-50 and were about 5 inches
chunk of melted aluminum from a fire
Big thick chunk of aluminum 3 inches by 2 inches with donut hole in the middle that reads "Playworld Systems" looks the same shape as an exhaust gasket but 3/4 inch thick, that came out at almost 10 inches.
Now before any one gets too excited; my deepest coin was 5 inches and it read at 1-39 and 1-40
This is the nicest soil of any site I have, it's a sandy loam in a heavily treed park so the moisture stays in the soil longer than most areas I hunt. My SE frequently pulls silver dimes out of there in the ten to 14 inch range (deepest I have ever found except for on a beach).
I ran into a couple of things that may help some people as it helped me a bunch:
I got to thinking about how badly my machine falsed and decided to try something new, First off, I got rid of all the darn filters such as difficult ground and dense trash as I had a strong feeling these were crapping up my tones a great deal and helping with the falsing issues.l
I put it in neutral ground, low trash. Left it in auto sensitivity +1. Now my biggest problem with falsing has been in conduct tones, and discing out the screen below ferrous 20 (ferrous 21 to 35). So today I put it in Ferrous, 2 tones and Disced out the entire left side of the screen up to and including conduct 30. Knowing I just gave up nearly all gold coins ever minted, lead bullets, all nickels, and about every button ever manufactured. But hunting in ferrous tones, which I have to in order to control the iron falsing, and having to stop and look at the screen 3 times a swing is not going to fly, period. No Andy, it is not possible in a trashy, pull tab infested park. The way I hunted today though got rid of those pull tabs completely, they come in at 12-23 up to and through 12-30, a couple snuck in at 12-31. I dug a few and stopped doing that. Had a couple nails false at 1-31, not too bad though, way better than conduct tones, way better. By not discing out small iron, it doesn't false. On my SE, if there was a particular situation that made all metal a pain and I had to disc something out, I would choose the thing that didn't cause falsing such as bottle caps to disc out instead of nails and that would allow less falsing and a deeper hunt so to speak. If this darn machine had a way of giving low iron tones and still could give the high conduct tones, I could honestly hunt it like an SE and probably slightly better because of the faster processor. Only if it could achieve the same depth. Mine Lab really botched this ferrous tone thing, it's a shame really. Even after they fix my machine,assuming they can and will, I still am going to be hunting handicapped like this.
All my 1-38 to 1-42 signals ended up being copper pennies on edge or wheats on edge.
All zincs came in at 12-27 clean, but again were not deep, in fact none of the coins were deep.
I dug anything above conduct 35 and that seemed to work.
I didn't see any Indians but this area of that park does not produce many so I don't know if my disc was interfering with them or not.
My auto sensitivity hovered between 20 and 23 which was the highest I have seen it yet and I was using the pro 11.
A couple of times the signals started chopping and falsing and I re-noise canceled and that seemed to help.
I left the machine in fast the whole time as when I turn it off, there is a huge loss of targets missed on this thing. especially with anything disced out.
One thing that I noticed about the tones is that the machine reports allot of different kind of "scratchy" pitches within one tone, I am guessing because of the faster processor, and maybe that is why the tones are not smooth like my Se. I thought about putting the machine in audio long or smooth but I was afraid I might jinx myself, so I left it alone.
This whole scenario of learning this ETrac is very similar to me learning my SE. When I first got my SE, I couldn't find anything deeper that 4 or 5 inches and then I opened up the discrimination and started digging 8 inch deep targets, I don't have that option here with the ETrac and it is sickeningly frustrating.
Some have posted Conduct numbers being pretty stable compared to ferrous numbers and that is what lead me to using ferrous sounds, two tones and discing out the left side of the screen-(conduct 1-30). That seemed to stabilize the ferrous numbers a great deal and since the ferrous iron was accepted, there was no falsing; just one low tone for iron, easy to ignore and one high tone for coins,easily standing out. Helped incredibly with separation in trash. I imagine, if the 1-30 to 1-35 line became a head ache with nails falsing, a guy could go to ferrous four tone and just ignore most of the highest pitched tones, concentrating on the middle two tones.
Any thoughts or comments, welcome.
Trash: 9 screw tops, no way around them I can think of as they all hit 12-40 and 12-41, Guess if you didn't dig dimes maybe
Need to stay away from BBQ pits in the park.Large chunk of aluminum foil about the size of a baseball but flat; read 12-40 at 4 inches- thought it was a dime
4 good size chunks of aluminum cans 2 x2 inches, all again read 12-40 and 12-41 only about 4 inches
2 heavy bolts that read 1-50 and were about 5 inches
chunk of melted aluminum from a fire
Big thick chunk of aluminum 3 inches by 2 inches with donut hole in the middle that reads "Playworld Systems" looks the same shape as an exhaust gasket but 3/4 inch thick, that came out at almost 10 inches.
Now before any one gets too excited; my deepest coin was 5 inches and it read at 1-39 and 1-40
This is the nicest soil of any site I have, it's a sandy loam in a heavily treed park so the moisture stays in the soil longer than most areas I hunt. My SE frequently pulls silver dimes out of there in the ten to 14 inch range (deepest I have ever found except for on a beach).
I ran into a couple of things that may help some people as it helped me a bunch:
I got to thinking about how badly my machine falsed and decided to try something new, First off, I got rid of all the darn filters such as difficult ground and dense trash as I had a strong feeling these were crapping up my tones a great deal and helping with the falsing issues.l
I put it in neutral ground, low trash. Left it in auto sensitivity +1. Now my biggest problem with falsing has been in conduct tones, and discing out the screen below ferrous 20 (ferrous 21 to 35). So today I put it in Ferrous, 2 tones and Disced out the entire left side of the screen up to and including conduct 30. Knowing I just gave up nearly all gold coins ever minted, lead bullets, all nickels, and about every button ever manufactured. But hunting in ferrous tones, which I have to in order to control the iron falsing, and having to stop and look at the screen 3 times a swing is not going to fly, period. No Andy, it is not possible in a trashy, pull tab infested park. The way I hunted today though got rid of those pull tabs completely, they come in at 12-23 up to and through 12-30, a couple snuck in at 12-31. I dug a few and stopped doing that. Had a couple nails false at 1-31, not too bad though, way better than conduct tones, way better. By not discing out small iron, it doesn't false. On my SE, if there was a particular situation that made all metal a pain and I had to disc something out, I would choose the thing that didn't cause falsing such as bottle caps to disc out instead of nails and that would allow less falsing and a deeper hunt so to speak. If this darn machine had a way of giving low iron tones and still could give the high conduct tones, I could honestly hunt it like an SE and probably slightly better because of the faster processor. Only if it could achieve the same depth. Mine Lab really botched this ferrous tone thing, it's a shame really. Even after they fix my machine,assuming they can and will, I still am going to be hunting handicapped like this.
All my 1-38 to 1-42 signals ended up being copper pennies on edge or wheats on edge.
All zincs came in at 12-27 clean, but again were not deep, in fact none of the coins were deep.
I dug anything above conduct 35 and that seemed to work.
I didn't see any Indians but this area of that park does not produce many so I don't know if my disc was interfering with them or not.
My auto sensitivity hovered between 20 and 23 which was the highest I have seen it yet and I was using the pro 11.
A couple of times the signals started chopping and falsing and I re-noise canceled and that seemed to help.
I left the machine in fast the whole time as when I turn it off, there is a huge loss of targets missed on this thing. especially with anything disced out.
One thing that I noticed about the tones is that the machine reports allot of different kind of "scratchy" pitches within one tone, I am guessing because of the faster processor, and maybe that is why the tones are not smooth like my Se. I thought about putting the machine in audio long or smooth but I was afraid I might jinx myself, so I left it alone.
This whole scenario of learning this ETrac is very similar to me learning my SE. When I first got my SE, I couldn't find anything deeper that 4 or 5 inches and then I opened up the discrimination and started digging 8 inch deep targets, I don't have that option here with the ETrac and it is sickeningly frustrating.
Some have posted Conduct numbers being pretty stable compared to ferrous numbers and that is what lead me to using ferrous sounds, two tones and discing out the left side of the screen-(conduct 1-30). That seemed to stabilize the ferrous numbers a great deal and since the ferrous iron was accepted, there was no falsing; just one low tone for iron, easy to ignore and one high tone for coins,easily standing out. Helped incredibly with separation in trash. I imagine, if the 1-30 to 1-35 line became a head ache with nails falsing, a guy could go to ferrous four tone and just ignore most of the highest pitched tones, concentrating on the middle two tones.
Any thoughts or comments, welcome.
