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5 Silvers In All Metal

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miserman

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I hunted an old Veterans meeting ground today that I have hunted many times since 1983. I noticed one area of the grounds was less trashy than the rest, so I decided to hunt in Motion All Metal. I started out with Sensitivity at 98 but was experiencing false signals due to minerals. After rebalancing several times with Fast Grab,I reduced Sensitivity to 88. This made the F75 run a lot smoother and the signals were much more workable. Any signals that hit in the mid 50's or higher were dug. All coins were found 8-9 inches with most of the Wheats showing numbers between 65 and 71. The Washington Quarter rang a solid 88 and the 2 Mercs and 1 Roosevelt Dimes were in the mid 70 range. The War Nickel came in at about 52 and I only dug it because I had just found a Wheat about 3 inches away. Using the All Metal Mode allowed me to find these coins that I missed in an area I have hunted many times over the years using Disc on the machines I hunted there with....Thanks for looking
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Congrats on a really nice days hunt.

Ron in WV
 
That's an awesome 5:7 ratio of silver to copper wheat pennies. I'm lucky if I can get about 1 out of 10.
 
That's a good day of hunting and great silver ratio. Mine runs about 1 in 12. Today, though, it was 1 for 1 before the rains hit. Sorry, just couldn't resist. HH jim tn
 
miserman said:
I hunted an old Veterans meeting ground today that I have hunted many times since 1983. I noticed one area of the grounds was less trashy than the rest, so I decided to hunt in Motion All Metal. I started out with Sensitivity at 98 but was experiencing false signals due to minerals. After rebalancing several times with Fast Grab,I reduced Sensitivity to 88. This made the F75 run a lot smoother and the signals were much more workable. Any signals that hit in the mid 50's or higher were dug. All coins were found 8-9 inches with most of the Wheats showing numbers between 65 and 71. The Washington Quarter rang a solid 88 and the 2 Mercs and 1 Roosevelt Dimes were in the mid 70 range. The War Nickel came in at about 52 and I only dug it because I had just found a Wheat about 3 inches away. Using the All Metal Mode allowed me to find these coins that I missed in an area I have hunted many times over the years using Disc on the machines I hunted there with.
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Question time
I am kind of wondering your thoughts on why motion all metal, over disc just set at or below mid 50's number?

I have never ran my machine in motion all metal, but when running disc it seemed that the meter numbers would not go as deep as the auto.

Wondering Ron in WV
 
Motion All Metal seems to be a better choice ONLY when there isn't a lot of trash in the area. Many of the DEEPER coins will show lower than normal numbers and will also show "jumpy" numbers that can read any where between the 50's to the mid 70's. When i hit a signal that shows 50's numbers,I stop and rescan the coil over the target to see if it shows any numbers in the low 60's to mid 70's. Some times the numbers will then hit 61,63,58,72,57,68 etc.This is an indication of a good target that is deep in the 8 inch + range. Checking the depth meter also is another clue when using this method. Also All Metal gives a "cleaner" sound on a deep target compared to the same signal in Disc. I feel that some VERY DEEP coin targets give only low numbers right before dropping out of the detectable depth range. Motion All Metal gives a better chance of extending this range. The down side is it is only suitable when hunting coin type signals in low trash areas.
 
Thanks for the tip. I might try the sensibility level you mentioned. I just bought a Fisher F75 and tried to know the machine better. Last year I hunted a park and found three wheaties in one hole. I know there got to be silver in the park but the machine I was using is limited to at best 6 inches in depth. So I decided to trade in all the coins I found last year for a Fisher F75. May I ask is using no discrimination the best approach to getting more depth. Also, do you use a stock coil or 13" or 15" coil.
 
Thanks whyicare..... Congratulations on your recent purchase of an F75. There are many different combinations of Settings and Modes with the F75 that can help gain depth according to the area you are hunting. I am hesitant to claim that All Metal is always the deepest Mode,for me. I stay with the 11" coil and use All Metal as much as possible when conditions allow it. When using All Metal Mode I can get a better feel for what the detector is trying to tell me about the detected object. I get less "false signals" when in All Metal and it is more forgiving of variation in coil height. I am finding that learning the different Tones and Processes in Discrimination combined with taking advantage of Motion All Metal Mode whenever possible, is the best use of the F75 for me. I agree that depth is important, but in the long run, I feel more coins can be found by hunting with the right settings for the area verses just "cranking up" and shooting for depth. Good Luck with your hunting!
 
Fisher says sensitivity is not affected using discrimination. ???????
That said..it may affect separation in some instances if iron present or large object near coin targets.
 
miserman said:
I hunted an old Veterans meeting ground today that I have hunted many times since 1983. I noticed one area of the grounds was less trashy than the rest, so I decided to hunt in Motion All Metal. I started out with Sensitivity at 98 but was experiencing false signals due to minerals. After rebalancing several times with Fast Grab,I reduced Sensitivity to 88. This made the F75 run a lot smoother and the signals were much more workable. Any signals that hit in the mid 50's or higher were dug. All coins were found 8-9 inches with most of the Wheats showing numbers between 65 and 71. The Washington Quarter rang a solid 88 and the 2 Mercs and 1 Roosevelt Dimes were in the mid 70 range. The War Nickel came in at about 52 and I only dug it because I had just found a Wheat about 3 inches away. Using the All Metal Mode allowed me to find these coins that I missed in an area I have hunted many times over the years using Disc on the machines I hunted there with.
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Nice day ... great finds
 
Awesome hunt,...I'm gettin there. Hunted disc at 6 for a while today before goin to 30.Got another site I'm goin to try all metal in next time I'm there. Congrads!
 
Just to give you an update on my use of the F75. I was at a park last Saturday that I got a signal 86. It was about 7 inches deep and out came a 1943 Liberty Half. I was so happy to see a silver half. I went back to the same park yesterday. I was looking at the display and noticed that that I got a 81 but there was no sound. I swept the coil again, same thing the display was showing 81 with many bars (a good signal) but no sound. In any case I decided to dig. 9 inches deep was a 1946 Washington Quarter. I was in disc mode with sensitivity set at 50s or 60s. I am new at using the F75. Right now I am only getting 7" Is this the deepest it can go with disc on a F75. Should I put a 13" coil to get an extra 2" in depth. I have a gut feeling that many silver coins are buried in 9" and beyond. Oh, yesterday morning (different park) I was at a school and found two silver dimes both were buried no more than 3 inches deep. The second one was a 1932 Mercury dime buried may be 2 to 3 inches deep. At first I thought it was a clad dime the area is highly trash area, then I saw the face of a Mercury. 2 silver dimes and not a single wheaties. You can bet on it, I will go back to these two places again and again.
 
whyicare said:
Just to give you an update on my use of the F75. I was at a park last Saturday that I got a signal 86. It was about 7 inches deep and out came a 1943 Liberty Half. I was so happy to see a silver half. I went back to the same park yesterday. I was looking at the display and noticed that that I got a 81 but there was no sound. I swept the coil again, same thing the display was showing 81 with many bars (a good signal) but no sound. In any case I decided to dig. 9 inches deep was a 1946 Washington Quarter. I was in disc mode with sensitivity set at 50s or 60s. I am new at using the F75. Right now I am only getting 7" Is this the deepest it can go with disc on a F75. Should I put a 13" coil to get an extra 2" in depth. I have a gut feeling that many silver coins are buried in 9" and beyond. Oh, yesterday morning (different park) I was at a school and found two silver dimes both were buried no more than 3 inches deep. The second one was a 1932 Mercury dime buried may be 2 to 3 inches deep. At first I thought it was a clad dime the area is highly trash area, then I saw the face of a Mercury. 2 silver dimes and not a single wheaties. You can bet on it, I will go back to these two places again and again.
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If 7" is the deepest that you have found a "small" coin,it doesn't mean the F75 won't go deeper. Don't rely on "air tests" because this is not an accurate method for testing depth. Burying a coin to test depth is also not an accurate method. Coins that have been buried for a long time will have an aura around them that will increase the depth they can be recovered at. Sometimes you can see darker dirt around the area where a coin is located, this is part of the aura affect. Also others things such as ground moisture and ground minerals have an affect on depth. I don't know the reason for no sound on the 9" Washington Quarter. The detector may have "nulled" on a piece of trash iron next to the target but it's doubtful. You could check your headphones for a short, that could cause it. It sounds like you are having success with your F75, putting on a larger coil is a personal preference. The smaller 5 X 10 Elliptical coil could get you more finds in trashy areas. Good Luck. Hope you make many more finds with the F75 .
 
The Tones and the TID numbers are both separate processes. So one can work when the other won't.

Typically it is the other way around. The Tone will react on a deep target where the TID number will not show up.

I would be concerned why you do not hear the tones. Double check all your settings and Ground Balance
 
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