A Few Things That Helped Me With the Legend

[Buttyjimm02]

Just sharing this in case it helps someone new to the Legend. What made the biggest difference for me was slowing my swing down and doing a quick ground balance when the machine starts getting chatty. Also playing with recovery speed depending on if I’m in trash or cleaner ground helped a lot. Nothing crazy just small adjustments that made it easier to understand what the machine is telling me.


Happy hunting out there.

 

[Odanscoils]

That's how you do it.
Adjustments a little at a time.
Try slowly tweaking your iron audio.
Good job.

 

[QBCoach]

I have owned my legend for two years now and this past summer I watched a video where the owner of a legend said if you speed up the swing to a normal routine it will help pick up more targets? Thoughts on this please? Also for farm fields in "FIELD" mode do you recommend M-1, M-2 or M-3? Mush thanks for your help!

 

[dd214]

I think of holding a rope perpendicular to the ground, the faster you swing it the more it'll lag behind, in the case of sweep speed, the signal won't be going as deep dependant on your recovery speed setting also. If you are speeding up your sweep you will be covering more ground possibly hitting more targets but maybe not as deep.

 

[Odanscoils]

1-2 second swing Max.
I've watched many ignorant people swinging like they were cutting grass with a double edged sickle.

Bothered me most swinging two ft off the ground at the end of each swing.

Within 20-30' my machine went Nuts.

 

[Picketwire]

When I was trying to see which noise cancel allowed the deepest discovery on my Legend, I found changing the sweep speed made more difference than changing noise cancel channel. When I increased the speed passing over the coil, I got more distance. Lay a target on the ground and raise the coil as you sweep slowly until you just barely get a signal, then use a fast sweep and see what happens. On my old T2, if I had an iffy signal, using a fast speed cleared it up. I agree that if you sweep too fast you will miss targets but not because it is not as deep. There are detectors that detect deeper going slow, Etrac comes to mind, but the Legend is not one as far as I can tell. Maybe if a person uses the slowest recovery speed, it might be deeper but I don't do that.

 

[sprchng]

I mostly detect trashy parks and schools and the only thing that determines sweep speed is the time it takes to hear the targets clearly. If you're not hearing the targets you are missing them. A good target may only be peep but you have to take the time to go if necessary and work the signal out of the ground , especially co-located targets. I have found many 8 -10" quarters in my tough alkaline soil that only start as a small squeak and ID in the upper 40s that turn into 50s with a little time of investigating optimum angles with recovery in the 5 and 6 settings

 

[jmaclen]

Just sharing this in case it helps someone new to the Legend. What made the biggest difference for me was slowing my swing down and doing a quick ground balance when the machine starts getting chatty. Also playing with recovery speed depending on if I’m in trash or cleaner ground helped a lot. Nothing crazy just small adjustments that made it easier to understand what the machine is telling me.


Happy hunting out there.

With the Legend and these more recent simultaneous multi frequency detectors, swinging really fast while trying to discover a deep target makes zero sense. Swinging really fast with very short swings while actually investigating a possible deep target after discovering it is a good idea.

Swinging the Legend's LG28, LG30 or LG35 coils really fast during full discovery sweeps is crazy. Those coils are just too big and there is no way to control them and keep them parallel to the ground during full 4 to 6' sweeps swinging them too fast. Swinging a bit faster with the LG24 coil is doable.

So swinging much faster to get more depth using any coil on the Legend while scouting or gridding an area is not something I would do. I know Paystreak does that but he is usually swinging really fast with shorter length controlled swings in really trashy areas with high mineralization using a smaller coil where maximum depth of detection is not important to him. He is much more concerned with ground handling and EMI mitigation than with getting an 8 to 10" deep coin sized target with a 6" wide DD coil.

Adjusting the frequency shift to get more depth on coin sized targets........That sounds dubious to me. I would just switch between M1, M2 or M3. Frequency shift within M1, M2 and M3 is going to be a minimal amount of change in the frequency like less than .5 kHz per shift. When I am hunting for really small targets that are less than 0.5 grams all the way down to 0.05 grams, yeah I might put M2 on its highest (13) frequency shift setting.

Adjusting recovery speed a bit lower to get more depth on coin sized targets or to avoid higher EMI levels makes sense if the site isn't too trashy. Adjusting the recovery speed a bit higher to handle more mineralized ground or higher target density sites makes good sense as long as you don't raise it too high so that the Legend can't get a good look at a possible good target and it's audio is too abbreviated.

If you hunt in areas where great targets are in the first 6" or so of the ground, your ground is not very mineralized and it isn't too trashy, well you are hunting in conditions that I have never experienced.
All of the older targets where I detect start at 6" depth and go deeper from there and the ground here at best is moderately mineralized with magnetite which VLF detectors struggle with.

 

[Picketwire]

Adjusting the frequency shift to get more depth on coin sized targets........That sounds dubious to me.

It is not my idea. It used to be Dankowski's modus operandi on the F75. He measured with a dime above the coil and used the deepest frequency. I agree moving the coil too fast will interfere with separation but not so much with depth.

 

[jmaclen]

It is not my idea. It used to be Dankowski's modus operandi on the F75. He measured with a dime above the coil and used the deepest frequency. I agree moving the coil too fast will interfere with separation but not so much with depth.

I am not claiming it was your idea. I was just commenting.

F75 single frequency and Legend M1, M2 and M3 with 13 frequency shifts are too very different types of detectors. For me trying to squeeze a little more depth out of a Legend 1 by manipulating frequency shifts may have more to do with EMI interference whether audible or silent than it has to do with a .1 to .5 kHz change in the weighted frequency providing more depth.

Air testing faster sweep speeds for improved depth may work in real hunting conditions for someone with mild soil or for someone that is just concentrating on shallow targets. In general, it does not work in real hunting conditions where I detect for discovering possible deeper targets. There is just too much ground noise here from magnetite mineralization which really fast swings will light up. A medium speed 2 to 3 second swing left-swing right full swing for general hunting has worked for me. Everybody is different, so are ground conditions and whatever works for a person is good as long as they have found that out for themselves instead of taking advice from someone with completely different ground conditions, thinking that information is universal.

I have not found Legend 1 in general to be a detector that inherently needs slower or faster swing speeds during longer length target discovery swings. That is what makes it a very versatile detector. Legend lets you easily change settings so you can adjust your swing speed to the target and ground conditions.