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Accurate pictograph on SE at deeper targets?

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Reggie

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I have an old test garden which has silver and clad coins from 2" to 12" deep. I have noticed that the target identification on the Explorer SE is right-on at 7", but begins to give a more ferrous indication at 8", and becomes way left of screen to indicate a ferrous object at 10" and deeper. Do you guys just look at the depth indicator and dig more ferrous-looking targets once the indicator goes beneath half way (12") on the machine? I am still new to the machine, and find that its deep targets still give a highpitched audio signal, but the visual image is not accurate as indicated above. I wonder how many good, deep targets I have missed in the last week by not noting the visual shift to the left on the deep targets. Thanks for your replies.
 
Trust your audio on deep targets Reggie. I dig all good sounding signals below 7-8 inches. Sure I dig a lot of trash, but the best trash signal I dug in the last month was a silver 3 cent piece. It was bouncing mid-screen to the left on the smart screen, but sounded good.
 
This is the main reason I always said tone first. A lot of old dimes come in way left as they are smaller for one reason and usually deeper than the newer drops.
I have also dug silver quarters in the upper left corner just opposite of what they should be. But tone was right on. Don't get me wrong, I dig trash there too.
 
Well now, you got me thinking and I have been using an original XS since 2000 and I do go by tone first, but I never that I can remember, ever had a good coin reading in far upper left, probably the furtherest left on the screen that I have had a coin is perhaps less than an inch from the right upper corner, and that usually is a counterfeit colonial copper. So you have me wondering why you are getting readings to the left on a deep coin for any reason, unless it is with iron in the same hole.

Now, I do not hunt for clad but do occasionally find some, but even with clad I do not remember the crosshair lying to me. :)

Don
 
When I set tone to FE, I do get some high pitched iron targets. Is there a way to "tune" the machine (in all metal or "open" mode, no discriminate) to sound low tones on all FE and high tones ONLY on non-iron/non-steel targets? The book talks about setting a piece of rusted iron beside a silver quarter when setting it on FE tone. How would this work, if at all? Thanks, guys. You are helping me a BUNCH. Reggie
 
Don, does it not lie to you if the clad coin is 9-12" deep? It will bark a signal, but my new machine leans progressively left as the target gets deeper. Thanks for your reply.
 
I basically think I have never seen any coin register far left unless iron was associated with it. I keep digging weird signals but it seems that the crosshairs really do not lie, now tone lies plenty of times, iron can sound like copper/silver, and register far right at first, but eventually will start going left, but that is for funky pieces of iron. I know my detector after 8 years of heavy use. But almost all of my hunting is Colonial era and early to mid 1800 sites, so clad is usually only found when lost by hunters or hikers....

Don
 
I don't know of any way to stop the high pitched tone on rusted iron like Ox shoes and the like.
Don, the SE is more prone to the cursor sticking in the upper left corner. And I can't tell you why.
 
Do you believe that there is a difference in explorers of the same mold? One XS V another XS not to mention the XS v SE. I have seen two explorers side by side read differently, even if it's a small difference.
 
When the cursor sticks in the upper left, try lifting the coil up off the ground a bit and move 90 degrees if needed. It often finds true home then.
 
Same thing here, though I never hunt with a fully open screen. Since the pitch is directly proportional to how high (vertically) the cursor is...for those that say a signal "sounds" right - is it the timbre of the sound - I notice that perfectly round smooth items are less "noisy" than those that are not. I swear I can hear the difference between a wheat cent and a copper memorial penny - but perhaps it's just in my mind......I too have been fooled by deep rusty nails from time to time. Minelab should assign another sound attribute to the horizontal axis as an option.
 
Yes, if your getting iron falsing and you move 90 degrees and don't get the same sound or there's a null in between the "screeches" then I leave it alone. Has anyone actually found anything good under these conditions - like a coin? I don't like digging lots and lots of rusty nails for the odd silver coin - I guess you'd call it the law of diminishing returns.
 
Every time I get into one of these discussions I'm told that I;m not hearing what I'm hearing and I can't be digging what I'm digging. Basically I don't know what I'm doing. I've had the XS the XS II and now the SE I am very proficient with the explorers and though I may not explain thing correctly I do know what I'm doing. I have dug Large coppers that came in like Memorials, Seated and Bust dimes that came in 2/3 the way to the top left Silver quarters that came in the top left corner and Ox shoes that came in as sweet as any silver you ever dug.
You can say what you want, but I'll keep digging those signals even though you all say I must be mistaken.
I'll bow out now and let you good folks continue with your text book knowledge.
 
I've dug a number of coins that LOCK into the upper left in the area of the screen that should null out. BUT, the tone you hear is as beautiful as any upper right signal. My most recent one was a barber dime down about 8" and once gone the hole would null out.

It happens fairly often to me. But if I turn 90 degrees and lose the sound then I usually don't dig. Occasionally I do, but about 99% of the time it is a nail. SOMETIMES it turns out to be a coin down there, but that is very rarely, and I don't see digging 99 nails to get 1 odd coin that usually ends up being a wheat cent. I ignore most of them, but still dig the first few ones I get at a new site.

Some sites I have been to have been able to produce a good cursor spot on the screen and most everything goes to iron, but the tones are what make me dig at them. These sites are great because there are lots of coins left in the ground in these places! :)
 
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