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All metal sounding off on every swing ????

I'm a lefty and I had the T-2 on the ground, a good foot in front of my left foot. My pro-pointer was behind my back in my right hand and as I brought it around to my right side I noticed the difference. Granted, that was a little lower than I wear the holster, but still a good three feet away from the coil. I don't know if a vest pocket would give you enough extra distance. What 12" or so. Plus a vest will get HOT come June thur August. I thought about suggesting a quiver type holster, but seems akind silly. How do you carry a digger? Another problem I see would be a situation where you have two or more targets say a foot apart. You use your detector to pinpoint the first, set you detector coil out away from you, pop the plug, pro-point the target and remove it. Now before you can move on to the second target (which is too deep to pro-point from the surface) you have to put everything away, stand up, and then pick up your detector to relocate the second one. I run into that type of situation at least a few times each hunt. I guess a guy could carry a few golf tees with him, and mark all his dig spots first.
 
Consider for a second whats realy going on here. We now have machines that are so sensitive that they are picking up the gear we are carrying. Wow! We wanted deeper, we got it. I dont see it as a negative that I have to be carefull what I wear (I have non-metalic hunting boots) and what I carry. I am delighted to have a machine this sensitive and if it means moving my metal gear around behind my waist, then thats what I will do. I think its awesome toI have a machine this sensitive!
Scully
 
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what we're talking about with the probe only happens when it's off. So if you're on the ground and have two targets near each other and will be digging them in a short period of time, you can just leave the probe on and not have to worry about the proximity of the probe and coil. When it is on you have to get the tip within a couple inches of the coil to hear any "interference". Not a problem...just something to learn how to work around.....sorta like many other things in life. :lol:
 
How does having the Pro-pointer on eliminate the interference? :confused:
 
Looks like I'll have to rethnk how I dress and what I carry when my new, black, hot, wonderful LTD arives this fall.



Scully said:
Consider for a second whats realy going on here. We now have machines that are so sensitive that they are picking up the gear we are carrying. Wow! We wanted deeper, we got it. I dont see it as a negative that I have to be carefull what I wear (I have non-metalic hunting boots) and what I carry. I am delighted to have a machine this sensitive and if it means moving my metal gear around behind my waist, then thats what I will do. I think its awesome toI have a machine this sensitive!
Scully
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scully said:
Consider for a second whats realy going on here. We now have machines that are so sensitive that they are picking up the gear we are carrying
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my 10 year old explorer does this too, I think the word "FINALLY!" would work in that sentence :)

I'd like everyone to look at BP, 70 sens, 8 Disc, and see how deep you get a silver dime. It's not what I expected considering how hot this thing is on large objects.
 
CZ's were doing the same thing long before the Explorers were born.
 
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Sorry, thought you were implying that the Explorer was a benchmark in that aspect.
 
I did some tests yesterday in my garden and found:

I located each coin and raised the coil until I was about at maximum high, all while continuing to sweep the coil and then brought my pro pointer in front of the control panel of my F75. I tried this with both the pointer on and off. I did not notice any change in the targets detection on any of my buried coins. This really boosted the confidence level I have in my machine. Now I might add that my machine could easily detect the pointer at a height of about the control box in both all metal (all metal mode could detect the pointer at the full length of the machine) and discrimination modes (more pronounced with 0 discrimination).
Man this is some kind of powerful machine.
I have no doubt the pointer affects the detection depth, but my thoughts are, if the signal reaches the buried target first, the F75 with it's fast recovery and target separation speed will sound off before much of the signal is lost to the pro pointers detection.
My confidence in the F75 is still optimal.
:super:
 
markg said:
I did some tests yesterday in my garden and found:

I located each coin and raised the coil until I was about at maximum high, all while continuing to sweep the coil and then brought my pro pointer in front of the control panel of my F75. I tried this with both the pointer on and off. I did not notice any change in the targets detection on any of my buried coins. This really boosted the confidence level I have in my machine. Now I might add that my machine could easily detect the pointer at a height of about the control box in both all metal (all metal mode could detect the pointer at the full length of the machine) and discrimination modes (more pronounced with 0 discrimination).
Man this is some kind of powerful machine.
I have no doubt the pointer affects the detection depth, but my thoughts are, if the signal reaches the buried target first, the F75 with it's fast recovery and target separation speed will sound off before much of the signal is lost to the pro pointers detection.
My confidence in the F75 is still optimal.
:super:
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you've been made aware of a potential situation, you took the time to test and quantify it, then developed your own conclusions with the resulting level of confidence. It doesn't get any better than that. And a quick FYI, since I know you are an info monster, when I reported this way back, there wasn't one piece of the puzzle available for them to actually test this for themselves, but a certain un-named resource that I think almost all of us on this forum and a lot of others highly respect, explained to me this was probably caused by there being two tuned coils (the PP tip and the search coil of the detectors) that just by coincidence were at resonance to each other and that explains why it happens when the PP is off so much more than when it's on. The effect isn't literally present to the same degree when you reverse the situation, that being the detector is off and the PP is on, but that's not a situation that would be encountered in the field and thus is a moot point.
 
I use a long handeled modified landscape shovel dragged behind by my left hand......I even have to dump my goodie pouch sometimes hourly if me and the machiune are hummin...
Always be aware of metal mass and dump the cell phone in the truck and toss the wakie talkie gps rino thingie......you are there to light em up .....Not 2 distract from your Radiated Field!
Pay attention to the little details and .....The Big Details will ride home in the back of the truck!

Happy Trails
Jim Pugh
 
Thanks for the detailed information.
Information like this is what it takes to obtain a fair understanding of the relationships between our machines and how they are affected by outside objects or devices.
Thanks again, Brad.


BuckeyeBrad said:
you've been made aware of a potential situation, you took the time to test and quantify it, then developed your own conclusions with the resulting level of confidence. It doesn't get any better than that. And a quick FYI, since I know you are an info monster, when I reported this way back, there wasn't one piece of the puzzle available for them to actually test this for themselves, but a certain un-named resource that I think almost all of us on this forum and a lot of others highly respect, explained to me this was probably caused by there being two tuned coils (the PP tip and the search coil of the detectors) that just by coincidence were at resonance to each other and that explains why it happens when the PP is off so much more than when it's on. The effect isn't literally present to the same degree when you reverse the situation, that being the detector is off and the PP is on, but that's not a situation that would be encountered in the field and thus is a moot point.
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Yes I was... I sorry I forgot to recheck this post. I forgot about it.

I have just about given up on the Garrett probe. After using a Uniprobe for several years the Garretts just doesn't cut it for me. I did notice when I was using the LTD in the backyard when checking the ground andtrying to hit that bullet it was not doing it and I did not have the probe on me.

Thanks for the info.

Julien
 
I also mount my Lesche digger on the left side and if I am using the SR pouch it is there but sometimes I use an apron, however with either the digger is on the left and I was also carrying a "ground Shark" shovel. I'll try checking all these things if it continues without the Parretts pinpointer there. I wonder if it will pick up the Uniprobe. I usually clip it on my frony left jeans pocket. I'll check all these things next time I use it.

J
 
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