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Don't you just love censorship? Makes you wonder if manufactures that do support this form receive biased field reports or other posts slanted in their favor. Since when do AFTERMARKET products have to have a manufacturers blessing? Just keep that in mind next time you buy a spare part for your car.....The company who makes them refuses to help sponsor this forum. Plus, they are not authorized or licensed by Minelab to even make the coils. So if someone makes posts mentioning the name of the company, it will be deleted
This is a road that we've been down many times regarding this peticular manufacturer. Not being authorized by MineLab alone should be enough to keep discussion/promotion of their product from this forum. So before this goes any further, please read the following that Randy wrote in another thread, and then don't see the forum stance as censorship, but rather doing you a favor by keeping everything above board.greg755 said:Don't you just love censorship? Makes you wonder if manufactures that do support this form receive biased field reports or other posts slanted in their favor. Since when do AFTERMARKET products have to have a manufacturers blessing? Just keep that in mind next time you buy a spare part for your car.....The company who makes them refuses to help sponsor this forum. Plus, they are not authorized or licensed by Minelab to even make the coils. So if someone makes posts mentioning the name of the company, it will be deleted
Digger said:For others who may not understand how this whole process rolls out, let me explain how I see it......The technical specifications for a given detector are patented by the OEM. In regard to the X-TERRA, that would be Minelab. An aftermarket manufacturing company (in the example of the All Terrain coil, Coiltek) approaches Minelab and negotiates for the rights to manufacture a product that interfaces with the detector. After all the legal steps are taken, an agreement is drawn up that allows the aftermarket company access to those specifications, in an effort to make their product. When that product is initially developed, it is carefully inspected by the OEM, to insure complete compatibility, that it will not create problems for the detector platform and that it performs up to the high standards established by that OEM. When that product design has been "accepted" by the OEM, the aftermarket company will apply for patent rights, as well as a license to manufacture that specific product. Depending on the accessory, manufacturing can start prior to the patent being accepted (patent pending). But due to legal stipulations, they will not typically begin the manufacturing process until they've been licensed to do so. When the license has been secured, the aftermarket manufacturer is "authorized" to produce and market the product. The first few products are sent to individuals who are very familiar with the product line, for testing. Depending on the particular product, this testing process can take as little as a few weeks, to more than a year. The end result that everyone works to achieve is a product that is a well designed, well built, functions properly and meets the needs of the consumer. I've tested many products that have gone on to become very successful as well as a few that never made it to the market. It takes time to workout the issues that can be resolved, and enough confidence (in your abilities) to inform the manufacturer if it doesn't meet the criteria. Regardless, of those that make it through testing, whether it takes two weeks or two years, the product is not likely to be introduced to the public until all the testing has been completed and the product has been accepted by all parties concerned. With the product having been accepted by the OEM, manufacturing continues. Once a given quantity of the product has been manufactured, it is distributed to the public through a distributor/dealer network.
So from a "time-line" perspective, offering an "authorized" aftermarket coil, properly designed and legally manufactured, is a much more technical and time consuming process than someone backward engineering a pirated product and selling them at an online auction site, with no responsibility to meet any specific technical standards.
greg755 said:Don't you just love censorship? Makes you wonder if manufactures that do support this form receive biased field reports or other posts slanted in their favor.
greg755 said:Since when do AFTERMARKET products have to have a manufacturers blessing? Just keep that in mind next time you buy a spare part for your car.....
It's not so much that they won;t register, but rather that they won't show as accurate or stable TID, and the audio response is different too.Mike T said:I know its next to longshot, but has anyone found a signal with a 3 khz coil that an Xterra with a med or hi freq. coil wouldn't register?