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Anyone ever hunt with the gain set at 1?

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NealNoIN

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Im affraid your problem there would be those weak deep signals.... there just wouldnt be any. Its difficult enough at say 7 to hear those whisper sounds.... throw in noise and threshold the machine might not recognize them or produce enough sound to be heard. Now if you are looking to find things about the 6" range then there would be greater differentiation between target signal strengths. Im one of those guys that prefer 9 or 10 on the gain... id rather hear everything than miss a whisper sound. There are times i reduce the Gain especially in difficult EMI.
 
neal,,no i have'nt hunted with gain at 1,but i practiced in my garden over a coin at about 6 inches.swing and listen--drop the gain one number--swing and listen--etc. etc.i went back to 7 because i liked that better...next time out i'll try 10 once again at the park where i find mostly clad which is'nt usually more than 4 inches.a friend did find a couple silvers there but did'nt mention depth---boy,that was a lot just to say no was'nt it?---but a little extra never hurts..thats what this forum does best.no pun intended.what individuals do and post it here is what gives others ideas..hh:happy:
 
I was thinking along the lines of being able to hear the difference between deep nickels/rings/etc. and shallow beaver tails/nickels/trash/etc. Seems like the low gain would help tell you it's a deep one...???
 
that's as low as I could handle. I tried everything I could think of last year at the twighlight zone sight where I got the 2 barber halves and the morgan dollar.
I am just a high gain freak...and want to hear those deep chirps as best I can...but tried lower gain because of the EMI. It did settle the SE down some...but I couldn't hear things like I wnted to. It did definately quiet it down though.
 
The next time you get a real deep signal, drop the gain down by one number and swing the target again. Keep going. You will still hear a 8"+ coin with a setting of 1. Gain just amplifies the signal. With good headphones you should not miss a target that gives an audio response. Now outside noise may cause you not to hear it but the machine will hear it and give a audio signal. I hunt with a gain of 5 or 6 and only chase the deep targets. I let the sound tell me if it is deep or not. Saves me from looking at the screen every time. At this point tone is about all I need with the Explorer. (and the Sunray Probe!!)

just my preference.

Ron
 
I did that at the beach today....oh yeah you can still hear it but good luck if you are going too fast or the wind is blowing hard, etc.....I would never recomend running gain 1....but yes you can still vaigly hear it.....I usualy run 7 and can tell a deepie from a shallow one without fear of missing a really deep one with ambient noise around me....but that is really interesting...
 
About how deep was you digging targets Mattockman? That was what i was trying to say those signals are very week i think the Explorer manual even talked about missing targets that low. I tried it some today with high ground EMI and for me the signals mixed it... you really had to pay attention i wouldnt want to do it all day.

Dew
 
I didn't use gain 1, I just got a quiet signal and from there lowered gain one at a time , just to see if it was possible to hear, and it was but it was like way down the hall kind of sound, barely audiable. The target was at the beach, so am not sure about the depth of it, anywhere fron 6-10inches....not sure. I would never hunt that low either....7 is the magic # for me and the XS, if I lower the sens. a bit, I use 8 gain. I use to run 27 sens @7 gain, Today I liked 24 sens,@8 gain. I try to find a weak signal that is deep, and then mess with sens. and gain to get the best stable audio,cursor(one that stays put). I found having too much sens. will screw up the audio and cursor, there is a sweet spot to everything.
 
My point was simply that the machine still gives an audio at 1. I never said to hunt at 1. My point is that regardless of the gain setting, the machine will give a audio signal. Gain just amplifies that audio signal.

I don't think anyone is ever going to hunt with a gain on 1 for the exact reason you stated and what I stated in my original post.

Ron
 
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