I would not recommend for the beginner to use Sensiviety at 99 straight out of the box, but trying it in steps, eg. 92, 95, 97 and finally to 99. For me even 99 is not enough. By the way, person who did the test was not a beginner, but a person who seems not to know Deus well.
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Anyone that has a Deus try the CTX 3030 yet... Any advice?
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earthmansurfer
Active member
Gonehunting said:
I can pretty much agree with Evan's above statement. I liked the Deus and thought it had great sounds, was super fast and was very very light. But, I just wasn't finding deeper coins with it. I dug around 10 deeper targets that lost their VID (in my somewhat iron mineralized ground at 7" or so) and only 1 was a keeper. I didn't know the sounds great but they sounded pretty good to me - I have great ears. I just prefer a solid VID and great sound as I am a coin hunter, even in Europe it serves a function. Even at the 5"-7" range the VID on the Deus was VERY jumpy. Now I know that might not be bad per say, but I just enjoy a more solid VID. (e.g. - My T2 was a great machine but the VID was all over the place too. Then I tried an Omega and even though it was cheaper it was more the coin hunter - deeper on most coins and a solid VID.)
I have the CTX and can say I'm getting about 1" more depth with it than the E-Trac. I am digging coins (in the last 7 hours in a hunted out spot with my E-Trac, I pulled over 10 coins from 8" - 9", 2 silvers with the CTX). I do think the CTX is overpriced though. I don't use the GPS feature but have tried it. Maybe on larger sites I will use it some. The waterproof feature is nice for when it rains for sure, but I may not ever water hunt (but now I will try). The target trace feature is nice, but only works down to 7" or so. It's not a big deal. No, the CTX isn't as fast as the Deus but it doesn't have to be. It is FBS(2) technology and you can't compare it recovery speed wise. In the ground it performs very well. My feeling is that most people who bought the CTX bought it as an upgrade to their E-Trac. I haven't read a whole lot of water hunting stories to think otherwise.
They are both great machines and you can't go wrong with either, depending on your wants. If I was a coin and relic hunter, I might go for the Deus as VID isn't as important then. But, I just hunt coins and VID really assists me. I'm a one machine guy and the CTX to me is more a coin hunter than the Deus (because of my ground and the cutting out of the Deus' VID).
Depending on the update and if it addresses the VID cutting out, I would revisit the Deus. But I'm also looking forward to that new Fisher CZ at years end. Maybe that will be a light E-Trac replacement
Albert
I am selling my CTX-3030 to get a XP Deus. I am not a dirt hunter I am a beach hunter, the 3030 is overkill for my needs. Also, being a smaller person I do feel the weight....no matter of balancing can take away the fact it is 5+ pounds! The 3030 did pull some clad at a park I went to in Hopes of finding some silver. The clad was mixed with trash, the targets were not deep but were masked. Now from what I have seen and read the Deus could have found them just as easily because of lightning fast recovery.
You have summed it up well within your contribution.
I ordered my Deus in December 2009 and it arrived in the January 2010.
I have never regretted that decision and over the many years detecting have owned a number of the better known machines.
The Deus while not perfect is the nearest that I have got to a machine that meets 95% of my requirements.
Have fun when it arrives and start off with the factory presets to many try to run before they can walk.
I have found most of my finds using Deus Fast 18kHz and GMP set at 12kHz.Jerry.
I ordered my Deus in December 2009 and it arrived in the January 2010.
I have never regretted that decision and over the many years detecting have owned a number of the better known machines.
The Deus while not perfect is the nearest that I have got to a machine that meets 95% of my requirements.
Have fun when it arrives and start off with the factory presets to many try to run before they can walk.
I have found most of my finds using Deus Fast 18kHz and GMP set at 12kHz.Jerry.
scoopjohnb
New member
The original post said he wanted to upgrade the X-terra 705 to a Deus or CTX.
And because he would like better separation in Iron.
Have you ever tried its prospecting mode? It is by far my best weapon in iron.
Slowly scrub the iron patch while the X-terra nulls, get it over a target in amongst the iron.
Switch to an all metal disc pattern and get a solid ID while you just wiggle the coil.
I've been finding coins on edge in reinforced concrete waste with that little X-terra using the prospecting mode.
It is rumoured the V3 Deus update would contain a prospecting mode, would be very nice.
Because the current non motion isn't really user friendly.
I own X-terra, E-trac, CTX, Deus, Excal 2 1000 and currently looking at a PI gold prospector.
Mostly do beaches, dry, wet and very wet and some inland pick nick spot detecting.
Now one thing you should also keep in mind.
I've found nice finds when going over a pre-detected spot with a different machine.
I've found zilch when going over a pre-detected spot with a different machine.
Those kind of comparisons are very suspect, user proficiency with the machine, settings, target unmasking and probably most of all user aptitude.
In general I would say, don't sell the X-terra until you've become proficient with your newly acquired detector.
Run your new detector over a pre-detected spot, have some nice finds.
Then think about your settings or approach on the old detector and run over the pre-detected spot again.
Give the old thing a real run for it's money.
Note in amazement what happens!!
In short.
Every machine you buy teaches you about the others you own.
Finds in the ground aren't detector specific, they simply don't care what you run over them!
Every find or piece of trash you dig adds to your detecting ability and comprehension of your detecting spot!
And because he would like better separation in Iron.
Have you ever tried its prospecting mode? It is by far my best weapon in iron.
Slowly scrub the iron patch while the X-terra nulls, get it over a target in amongst the iron.
Switch to an all metal disc pattern and get a solid ID while you just wiggle the coil.
I've been finding coins on edge in reinforced concrete waste with that little X-terra using the prospecting mode.
It is rumoured the V3 Deus update would contain a prospecting mode, would be very nice.
Because the current non motion isn't really user friendly.
I own X-terra, E-trac, CTX, Deus, Excal 2 1000 and currently looking at a PI gold prospector.
Mostly do beaches, dry, wet and very wet and some inland pick nick spot detecting.
Now one thing you should also keep in mind.
I've found nice finds when going over a pre-detected spot with a different machine.
I've found zilch when going over a pre-detected spot with a different machine.
Those kind of comparisons are very suspect, user proficiency with the machine, settings, target unmasking and probably most of all user aptitude.
In general I would say, don't sell the X-terra until you've become proficient with your newly acquired detector.
Run your new detector over a pre-detected spot, have some nice finds.
Then think about your settings or approach on the old detector and run over the pre-detected spot again.
Give the old thing a real run for it's money.
Note in amazement what happens!!
In short.
Every machine you buy teaches you about the others you own.
Finds in the ground aren't detector specific, they simply don't care what you run over them!
Every find or piece of trash you dig adds to your detecting ability and comprehension of your detecting spot!
rarysgaard
New member
I loved my Etrac, but traded it in for a Deus. I regretted it for awhile, but after spending considerable time with the Deus it is paying off. I hunt for jewelry in heavy trashy parks & picnic areas. Although i wish they would come out with a 6" coil, the recovery speed is nothing short of fantastic. I have found 3 24KT gold items this year with the Deus as well as a 10KT pendant & a 14KT ladies amethyst ring with 6 diamonds and I have only had the machine since July. It is a nickel magnet and is very sensitive to small jewelry in the 18 khz frequency. It is very well built, balanced and light weight.I can say I have no regrets and would recommend one to anyone provided you give yourself enough time to learn the machine, because there is a learning curve. Good luck on your decision!.
woodchiphustler
New member
I just tried the CTX and found the weight and the rod length (to short for a tall man with short arms) caused me physical discomfort. The Deus has room to spare on the length, and is very light weight. I prefer a fast processor to find colonial relics in and around iron. Nothing is faster then the Deus. I will be rejoining the Deus community next week.
Arthur-Canada
Member
I have seen many times where folks on forums write up comparisons on two or more machines, but I'm sure completely unintentionally, I believe most comparisons are flawed. If one goes out to a certain plot of land and swings it with detector 2 and finds x, y, z, after already swinging it "thoroughly" with detector 1, the automatic assumption that detector 1 missed them while detector 2 did not, may be completely wrong. It is this flawed methodology that detector manufactures rely on to outsell their competition. How many times have any of us gone out to a site with our brand x detector and then returned to the exact same area with the same detector and found missed stuff? We are then left scratching our heads wondering how we missed those targets the first time. What I am saying in other words is this: the only true method of comparing detector capabilities is in a side-by-side comparison.
I detect always with usually one or more other detecting partner with me. Quite often when one of us gets a target we will call the other guy over to check the signal, usually with a different brand detector, or same brand but different setup. In almost every single instance all detectors get the signal, albeit some get a "dig signal" better then others. Having done this for years I have learned to start digging signals that without what I have learned on these comparisons I would not have stopped to contemplate for even a second. My detectors are all 20 years old or more now. Some of my detecting buddies have new Explorers, Etrac, etc. and I have yet to see them with any advantage over me on average. The proof is in the pudding...how much "keepers" are in the pouch at the end of the day? There is usually very little difference. Usually slowing down your swing rate (or increasing it in some cases) and or changing the coil size makes up for any advantage the fancy new detector have over my old work horse. I have proven this to myself so many times that I don't need another detector review to convince me that all the new detectors will smoke me in the field and I should throw my old clunkers in the closet.
Learn what your detector is telling you better than anyone else using your brand and in my opinion you will still do as well as the guy with the "new detector on the block"!
I detect always with usually one or more other detecting partner with me. Quite often when one of us gets a target we will call the other guy over to check the signal, usually with a different brand detector, or same brand but different setup. In almost every single instance all detectors get the signal, albeit some get a "dig signal" better then others. Having done this for years I have learned to start digging signals that without what I have learned on these comparisons I would not have stopped to contemplate for even a second. My detectors are all 20 years old or more now. Some of my detecting buddies have new Explorers, Etrac, etc. and I have yet to see them with any advantage over me on average. The proof is in the pudding...how much "keepers" are in the pouch at the end of the day? There is usually very little difference. Usually slowing down your swing rate (or increasing it in some cases) and or changing the coil size makes up for any advantage the fancy new detector have over my old work horse. I have proven this to myself so many times that I don't need another detector review to convince me that all the new detectors will smoke me in the field and I should throw my old clunkers in the closet.
Learn what your detector is telling you better than anyone else using your brand and in my opinion you will still do as well as the guy with the "new detector on the block"!
Arthur-Canada
Member
I have seen many times where folks on forums write up comparisons on two or more machines, but I'm sure completely unintentionally, I believe most comparisons are flawed. If one goes out to a certain plot of land and swings it with detector 2 and finds x, y, z, after already swinging it "thoroughly" with detector 1, the automatic assumption that detector 1 missed them while detector 2 did not, may be completely wrong. It is this flawed methodology that detector manufactures rely on to outsell their competition. How many times have any of us gone out to a site with our brand x detector and then returned to the exact same area with the same detector and found missed stuff? We are then left scratching our heads wondering how we missed those targets the first time. What I am saying in other words is this: the only true method of comparing detector capabilities is in a side-by-side comparison.
I detect always with usually one or more other detecting partner with me. Quite often when one of us gets a target we will call the other guy over to check the signal, usually with a different brand detector, or same brand but different setup. In almost every single instance all detectors get the signal, albeit some get a "dig signal" better then others. Having done this for years I have learned to start digging signals that without what I have learned on these comparisons I would not have stopped to contemplate for even a second. My detectors are all 20 years old or more now. Some of my detecting buddies have new Explorers, Etrac, etc. and I have yet to see them with any advantage over me on average. The proof is in the pudding...how much "keepers" are in the pouch at the end of the day? There is usually very little difference. Usually slowing down your swing rate (or increasing it in some cases) and or changing the coil size makes up for any advantage the fancy new detector have over my old work horse. I have proven this to myself so many times that I don't need another detector review to convince me that all the new detectors will smoke me in the field and I should throw my old clunkers in the closet.
Learn what your detector is telling you better than anyone else using your brand and in my opinion you will still do as well as the guy with the "new detector on the block"!
I detect always with usually one or more other detecting partner with me. Quite often when one of us gets a target we will call the other guy over to check the signal, usually with a different brand detector, or same brand but different setup. In almost every single instance all detectors get the signal, albeit some get a "dig signal" better then others. Having done this for years I have learned to start digging signals that without what I have learned on these comparisons I would not have stopped to contemplate for even a second. My detectors are all 20 years old or more now. Some of my detecting buddies have new Explorers, Etrac, etc. and I have yet to see them with any advantage over me on average. The proof is in the pudding...how much "keepers" are in the pouch at the end of the day? There is usually very little difference. Usually slowing down your swing rate (or increasing it in some cases) and or changing the coil size makes up for any advantage the fancy new detector have over my old work horse. I have proven this to myself so many times that I don't need another detector review to convince me that all the new detectors will smoke me in the field and I should throw my old clunkers in the closet.
Learn what your detector is telling you better than anyone else using your brand and in my opinion you will still do as well as the guy with the "new detector on the block"!