BACK TO THE FUTURE with the T2... and the 4,75 coil

[jbow]

I decided to lay aside the newfangled machines yesterday snd hunt with the T2 using the new small coil. I went to a local park that has been hunted hard since the 60s. There was a RR depot on the site and a confederate hospital across the road, plus Sherman stayed there for an extended period, so it was a well know site that got pounded.

I get an occasional bullet or old coin but there are no good signals, everything is iffy, all the good signals were dug long ago... so you have to use the "black arts" of detecting. The T2 with the small coil is like a wizards wand...

I hunted a small area about 1000 sq ft. I chose that area because a few weeks ago I dug two Mercury dimes in the area. I was using the E-TRAC then. I hunted the whole area a couple of times with the ET and with the V3 and my friend hunted it with his V3 and F75 with an F70 coil.

So yesterday I got three lead RR baggage tags, a 1943-P war nickel, an unfired bullet with part of the brass still attached, a wheat penny, two small pieces of lead, and something metal that looks just like a partial for a dog... a canine and bicuspid tooth, I have no idea what it is. I also dug some nice iron relics but I knew they were iron before I dug them.

I was very surprised to find this much stuff in such a small area especially since I have hunted it hard recently. I have used the V3 with the 4x6 coil and roy used the white 6x10, (I think that is the size but anyway, it is the white elliptical coil).

There is another spot where I dug three bullets in the last few weeks, two chewed. I can't wait to try the T2 and small coil over there. I am very impressed!!

Also, I was able to run the disc on 5 and the sens between 85 and 90, 90 most of the time. It would only chatter when I laid it down or lifted it. I learned that with the F75 running JE mode... keep it swinging on the ground and it will stabilize, same with the T2 using the low disc boost and high sens. I was able to run the AM sens on 95.

I was digging every repeatable signal 56/57 and above except for stuff in the high 90s.

I like this coil a LOT.

Sorry I don't have pics but i'll try to take some later.

On another note: Someone else has been digging in the park and making a mess. There was one spot near the flagpole where the grass is green and full... they left a dirt spot about a foot wide and three feet long... I was embarassed. I hunt there a LOT and don't want to be blamed for this crap. I think I am going to talk to the local police, whom I know, and alert them to watch for anyone out there with a fullsized shovel. A young guy showed up about 10 days ago when Roy and I were there. He had just bought an MXT and wanted us to tell him where to find relics... He had his plump little wife in tow... she was carrying a fullsized spade type shovel. I tried to tell them how to recover and that they needed to get a Lesche tool and a small shovel... but off they went. They covered about 200 feet in 10 minutes, dug three or four holes and left... Alas, I think they came back. Why would anyone carry a shovel into a public park or into someones yard?

Julien

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

when you couple that with a small coil, the relatively shallower masked targets will become history. I don't think anyone else brings the speed to the table like the new Teks and Fishers. Congrats Julien on these finds! Being pleasantly surprised is one of the most fun things that can happen in this hobby. Just this morning I hit a 32 cal rim fire slug at just shy of 9" in parched ground with the Delta and DD in an area that I'd multi-freq'd to death. Pleasantly surprised.

I've been closely following yours and others "adventures" with the other detector. There are two basic facets of detector design that I seem to be evolving away from over time. Those are weight and extreme complexity that doesn't deliver a proportional and distinct advantage. I'm remaining open minded but I haven't seen any significant compelling evidence yet that would make me write that check for "fiteen hunned". My curiosity is high but my concern around return on investment is winning out for now.

 

[jim tn]

Thanks for the report Julien. I've been thinking about that little coil for my T 2. I have the 6 1/2 elliptical for my F 75, so seems like that one would be a good addition. Last week one morning, I spent a good fifteen minutes or so, walking around and filling in someone elses holes, as well. Like you, this was a site I frequent quite a bit and didn't want to get blamed, either. HH jim tn

 

[jim tn]

Funny Brad, you and I think alike. HH jim tn

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

I take that as a compliment, Jim because I've always appreciated and respected your posts and insights.

 

[jbow]

I've been thinking a little about that too. I still cannot resist the newest and best but... maybe I already have it in the T2 and the SovereignGT... and the Tejon.

The E-TRAC is a good tool too but it missed thses things. I am not at all sure about the V3 yet, it reminds me of trying to master the SE... it was more like work than fun and my finds were lagging.

If I sell the V3 I will buy something else though. I have been wanting to try an Infinium LS for relics and the Omega 8000 sure looks interesting, people say it is very stable.


I'll probably go back this PM to see if there is anything more in the same area. I may check it with the SovereignGT too.

J

 

[jim tn]

n/t

 

[Elton]

I like you need lots more time with the V3 before saying yes, or no.. The Etrac did not impress me much..But, every time I use the T2 I am Impressed big time.

 

[Neil]

I've been thinking a little about that too. I still cannot resist the newest and best but... maybe I already have it in the T2 and the SovereignGT... and the Tejon.

The E-TRAC is a good tool too but it missed thses things. I am not at all sure about the V3 yet, it reminds me of trying to master the SE... it was more like work than fun and my finds were lagging.

If I sell the V3 I will buy something else though. I have been wanting to try an Infinium LS for relics and the Omega 8000 sure looks interesting, people say it is very stable.


I'll probably go back this PM to see if there is anything more in the same area. I may check it with the SovereignGT too.

J

Julien thanks fot the report on the smaller coil. They require patience but usually do very well.

Can you tell me what you can do with your T2 that you cant with the Tejon and vice versa, somethings both ways that would make you keep both of them. I can understand the Sov, big difference between the T2 and it.

Thank you,
Neil

 

[gmanlight]

I also would like to hear on Neils question Thanks Mike

 

[jbow]

You have not given the E-TRAC enough time... I use mine differently than most people and it works very well for me.

Try running deep on; fast on; Auto+3; relic pattern; 2 tones; ferrous sounds; and digital screen. Since the conductive line is now straight you no longer gain an advantage from the crosshairs. Just rely on the conductive number when you hear the high tone. The numbers are easy to learn, I have a huge list of them if you need it. The conductive numbers don't jump and stay true even at considerable depth, The ferrous number can and will differ so I don't pay it much attention unless it is under 4 or over 30.

The E-TRAC is better used this way, IMO. I think most people use conductive sounds and multi tones because that is what worked best on the explorer but the ET falses much less if you use 2 tone ferrous... and the conductive number don't lie... not much anyway. Dig iffys that give a good conductive number, even one way, as long as the ferrous number isn't in the 30s. You'll see what I mean.

If I am hunting clad at a ballpark or someplace like that I may use multi tones and conductive sounds but I still use the relic pattern because the tones sound better and I like to hear it all, it is easier to discern a goodie next to a baddie.

All you have to do is learn your conductive numbers and dig them if the ferrous number isn't too high. Of course you have to remember that a Morgan dollar reads 01/40 or 01/41. I think there are some good targets that read 01/30 too.

What bothers me is that neither the SE or the ET will read a stack of silver dollars... try stacking 4 or 5 silver dollars and see what you get. The only machine I have that will read them as a good target is a Tesoro Tejon... good to know if you happen to be hunting a cache.

Try those settings before you write off the ET... IT is NOT AN EXPLORER... and the digital screen takes advantage of the straightened conductive line, forget about the 12/xx the 12 can vary but the conductive number is the one that locks on in trash. Even with higher disc the conductive number will lock on.

If you want to hunt by audio you should use either a Sovereigh or an Explorer. To get the best out of the E-TRAC... use the digital, 2 tone ferrous and learn the conductive numbers. Dig a lot of them, especially in hunted out places because the ET will hit on good targets in iron and trash in pounded sites using the 11" pro coil.

Obviously, there is nothing wrong with the T2 either....

J

 

[jbow]

I like the way the Tejon is quiet in iron and hits hard on small brass like buttons and on minnies. I never take the 5.75 DD coil off my Tejon. It is just as fast as the T2, IMO... at least it works as fast as I can swing it and that small coil is remarkably deep. It is light and comfortable. I guess the main thing is that you just don't hear all the small iron with the Tejon, unless you want to. I think it probably has a slight edge over the T2 in heavy iron. It is a great relic machine and a superior coin hunter too. They are similar I guess but if you get ear fatigue from all the grunts and squeaks from the T2... switch to the Tejon.

I guess it is just a matter of opinion.

J

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

my T-2 (and the 3 other Teks I have) hit them fine. I think part of the issue is that silver dollars are so high in the conductive food chain that there can be varying amounts of wrap around and if you aren't accepting the bottom of the ferrous scale, it could be a broken or even a semi-missed signal that in the field might be mis read as iron falses. The funny thing is that one might think that the more silver dollars you scan, the worse that would be and that is not necessarily so. The Ti-Teks actually do something a little different (and it slightly varies by model) sometimes depending on how many coins you check. It is interesting and sort of puts a "signature" on that situation.

 

[jbow]

I'm glad to know that!

Thanks,
Julien