Cinders and Hot Rocks effect on E-Trac Depth

[tippyhound]

Tippy, I saved (save as) this to my pictures folder, then went there and enlarged the picture of the email and read it much easier. In effect he said; run your machine in manual then hold your coil about an inch above the ground and do a ground balance, if your thresh hold is a little erratic, then adjust your sensitivity until it stabilizes.......NGE

Thanks for your come back on Keven Hoaglands E-mail. The only thing I see wrong with his suggestion is the part about the ground balance. To my knowledge that function does not exist on the E-Trac. If I am wrong would someone tell me how to do it. The ability to manual ground balance the E-Trac to me is probably the one thing that might help me beat this problem . Thanks Rick IL.

 

[ryanchappell]

He said to noise cancel not ground balance. I believe ground balance is continuous and automatic.

I was talking to another E-Trac user in town and he said that the steel mills had terrible pollution for half a century or more depositing iron dust everywhere. He said that they used to call this "Smoke City," because the pollution was so bad you would see smoke when approach town on the highway. He said that the iron dust would accumulate on a vehicle left unmoved for 6 - 12 months and ruin the paint job. Imagine if this dust has iron on in it and has been accumulating in the soil all these years. I think that could be a factor.


Here is a text retype of the e-mail. I greatly appreciate you posting it!

"Sorry for the delay in responding I have been training over the last few days and am just getting caught up. Cinders are a major concern for many hunters. Most of the time working in cinder rich areas both red cinders or black the best results will come from working the detector in manual sensitivity and decreasing it as well. Using your menu choose your sensitivity setting and scroll to the auto annual option and choose manual with the right or left navigation arrow.
Once completed press detect to return to your hunting screen. Holding the detector an inch or so above the ground noise cancel and once completed listen to the background threshold it may be somewhat erratic. If so decrease the sensitivity of the detector until it becomes stable. That should allow you to hunt those areas pretty easily. We have cinder beds here in Arizona and that has been the most successful setting I have used.

If you have been experimenting with a number of settings and have saved many of them you may have to perform a master reset as well. Please refer to your manual if needed for the full procedure.

Please feel free to contact me as well if you have any other question or if this does not lessen the effects of the cinders. I hope this helped.

Regards,

Kevin D Hoagland
Direct of Partner Development
Minelab Americas Inc"

 

[tippyhound]

He said to noise cancel not ground balance. I believe ground balance is continuous and automatic.

I was talking to another E-Trac user in town and he said that the steel mills had terrible pollution for half a century or more depositing iron dust everywhere. He said that they used to call this "Smoke City," because the pollution was so bad you would see smoke when approach town on the highway. He said that the iron dust would accumulate on a vehicle left unmoved for 6 - 12 months and ruin the paint job. Imagine if this dust has iron on in it and has been accumulating in the soil all these years. I think that could be a factor.


Here is a text retype of the e-mail. I greatly appreciate you posting it!

"Sorry for the delay in responding I have been training over the last few days and am just getting caught up. Cinders are a major concern for many hunters. Most of the time working in cinder rich areas both red cinders or black the best results will come from working the detector in manual sensitivity and decreasing it as well. Using your menu choose your sensitivity setting and scroll to the auto annual option and choose manual with the right or left navigation arrow.
Once completed press detect to return to your hunting screen. Holding the detector an inch or so above the ground noise cancel and once completed listen to the background threshold it may be somewhat erratic. If so decrease the sensitivity of the detector until it becomes stable. That should allow you to hunt those areas pretty easily. We have cinder beds here in Arizona and that has been the most successful setting I have used.

If you have been experimenting with a number of settings and have saved many of them you may have to perform a master reset as well. Please refer to your manual if needed for the full procedure.

Please feel free to contact me as well if you have any other question or if this does not lessen the effects of the cinders. I hope this helped.

Regards,

Kevin D Hoagland
Direct of Partner Development
Minelab Americas Inc"

I read Mr.Hoaglands E-mail several times and followed it as close as I possibly could.

I understand the function of the E-Trac where it is a auto ground balance machine. Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking this machine as I have done better with this machine for finding coins in the most adverse conditions you can imagine. It will pick them out where nothing else will touch them, but I'm from the old school of VLF Manual Ground Balance machines and do wish this machine gave us that option so I could at least try it where I am hunting. I have found more silver with this machine in the last year I have owned it then I have done in the last four years put together. I can't knock those kind of results. Rick IL.

 

[ryanchappell]

I read Mr.Hoaglands E-mail several times and followed it as close as I possibly could.
I understand the function of the E-Trac where it is a auto ground balance machine. Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking this machine as I have done better with this machine for finding coins in the most adverse conditions you can imagine. It will pick them out where nothing else will touch them, but I'm from the old school of VLF Manual Ground Balance machines and do wish this machine gave us that option so I could at least try it where I am hunting. I have found more silver with this machine in the last year I have owned it then I have done in the last four years put together. I can't knock those kind of results. Rick IL.

Agreed, same here! It would be a dream, if they could flash the firmware and add a lot of manual capabilities that are missing. I am used to computer people making their own firmware for iPhones and routers etc, too bad the computer nerds are not interested in this stuff.

I posted something to Kevin's article on Minelab's website, and he said he would call me sometime and discuss the settings.

PM me if you find out anything else, I will do the same!

 

[ryanchappell]

Mr. Hoagland never called me. Oh well!