Constant nulling at some sites ???

[Damar2003]

Some of the yards I have been hunting must have some really tough ground. The etrac nulls almost the whole time until I stop the coil. Lots of blips and beeps. Tried turning sensitivity down which does not help. I feel like I am problably missing some coins, and I do go slow on the swing. Will the detector sound off on a coin while it nulls? I do find some coins, but I am hoping someone can tell me something to remedy this. I have 3 months on the e-trac and have found 6 times the silver that I did last year and I love the machine so I am in no way knocking the e-trac , just curious what some of you more seasoned e-trac users think.Thanks in advance

 

[EtracTom-AdirondacksNY]

If in Trash High and Ground Difficult unless your sensitivity is over 22-23 thenyou can run in ground neutral it says in the manual or at a beach or sand and yes it can still find coins because of the trash high setting. BUT more than likely a small coil is called for as between the ground mineralization the iron content and the trash amount and how many signals under the coil it has to contend with at any given time it nulls. I found a spot Sunday like that so I'm going to a smaller coil myself and go back to see. Been proven by Bryce in the Explorer forum and he's tested many coils and wrote about it there. You would be surprised how well the smaller coils ferret out those coins hiding in this kind of condition and it still gets deep because you may be able to run in manual instead of Autoto go hotter to go deeper..

 

[Goes4ever]

Sounds like real high iron if your nulling all the time, you have a couple options

1. Small coil and go real slow as already mentioned
2. Run in TTF so you hear the iron, plus you hear the goodies as well.

 

[metalman709]

okay....this is what i'm wanting to read right here!!! this one spot that i hunt and have gotten silver out of is like this....thats why i bought the etrac.... i to noticed that the etrac was nulling alot and thought that the ground had alot of iron it as well as trash...in fact i know it has alot of trash because they actually had a ditch running down one side that they threw alot of trash in!!!! it's an old school, and when they re-did the playground area, they covered the trash pile.... so what your saying goes4ever is, run TTF and just watch the numbers???? are the numbers more accurate in TTF to go by???? i played with it a little bit at this site, but wasnt real sure what i was doing.....

 

[Goes4ever]

Have u read my TTF article on my site?

 

[Jason in Enid]

It's just a VERY trashy yard. You might try getting a smaller or sniper coil. I just got the Sunray X5 coil and took it to a spot I refused to hunt with other coils. Just too much trash. So far I have pulled 8 wheats and 4 silver from that trash!

 

[Damar2003]

Thanks to all who replied. I will try the TTF and I will be getting a small coil soon, just not sure if I want the 6x8 sef butterfly or the 6" dd eq2.

 

[Goes4ever]

I will tell you this I think my 6x8 gets at least 90% as deep as the larger procoil if that helps you at all. I wouldn't be afraid to use it anywhere. I never fear I am missing coins because of them being too deep while using the 6x8

 

[metalman709]

yes i have read it....but....i have read so much in the last 2 weeks that i've got a case of overload.....sorry about that.....went back to my site for an hour or so and ran in TTF mode....picked out 4 nickels a dime and 2 pennies..... man that is some serious noise!!!! but it is really cool.... i did notice on the nickels that i had to run across them several times to get the 12/13 numbers.... i hit the dime and it was straight up 12/44 and never wavered from that...... pennys were were both new pennys and they came across12/36 both times..... dug a few junk targets that were giving me good signals, pieces of a can both times..... but i think i might just get to liking the TTF mode if i can figure out how to control the noise.....

 

[banditicey]

Sounds like real high iron if your nulling all the time, you have a couple options

1. Small coil and go real slow as already mentioned
2. Run in TTF so you hear the iron, plus you hear the goodies as well.

I have had it Null in TTF

What does that mean?

 

[ronfin]

Sounds like real high iron if your nulling all the time, you have a couple options

1. Small coil and go real slow as already mentioned
2. Run in TTF so you hear the iron, plus you hear the goodies as well.

I have had it Null in TTF

What does that mean?

You're pattern is discriminating the iron below as normal. TTF is just a different way of listening to what's in the ground, not a way to listen around the discrimination. You may wanna open up the pattern and run TTF to hear the better signals amidst the trash and iron. So many people think TTF is magic or something.

 

[grouser]

Sounds like real high iron if your nulling all the time, you have a couple options

1. Small coil and go real slow as already mentioned
2. Run in TTF so you hear the iron, plus you hear the goodies as well.

I have had it Null in TTF

What does that mean?

simply ,,,,, it means your coil is over a rejected/discriminated target. Open the screen up almost all the way with just a single strip of black in the upper left corner for about half the sreen then go to the bottom and do the same on the lower right hand. Make sure the two over lap a little in the middle. You WANT to hear all the iron grunts,,,, this pattern was meant to just null out the rusty nail that wants to loop

 

[jimmyWB]

I love two tone ferrous...I usually don't run it full time...When I encounter a lot of iron and good number all at one time...I switch to two tone ferrous and viola if there's a good target there it is usually revealed by two tone ferrous...I have found many silvers doing this...I bet other metal detectorists just passed these targets by because they didn't get the "right " signal...and this is where the ETRAC excels...I love the ETRAC.