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[john4840]

Tonight I received an answer from the Regional General Manager - Consumer Australia. See his answer below;

"Thanks for the questions.

The simple answer is the Safari only tests targets for the conductivity property. It does not have the 2-D target identification capability of the Explorer or E-Trac.

The complex answer relates to the statement that you have from Andy

 

[DaugBiscuit]

Correct, TID is based on conductivity only. It would have been nice to have a dual numbers with the Safari but I don't see that ever happening because it would then compete with the Explorer Pro and the E-Trac. The one thing we do have though is the different tones in the different search modes. So, to me, the key to hunting successfully with the Safari is to first learn the tones and then maybe check the numbers as a back-up reference.

 

[john4840]

Correct, TID is based on conductivity only. It would have been nice to have a dual numbers with the Safari but I don't see that ever happening because it would then compete with the Explorer Pro and the E-Trac. The one thing we do have though is the different tones in the different search modes. So, to me, the key to hunting successfully with the Safari is to first learn the tones and then maybe check the numbers as a back-up reference.

Yep your right. I was playing around with all metal ferrous mode without anything notched out and found a 1951 rosey today. I heard the sweet silver tone and I had a feeling it was silver before I dug it. Funny it was only 3 inches deep in place I had detected for 25 years and many others also. I think am going to buy a used Explorer to mess around with though, but I will also keep my Quattro.

John

 

[kschae4]

Thanks for the research,Don. As we gain more experience with the Safari, many of us routinely toggle out of conductivity audio to ferrous to differeniate between clad and the sweeter sound of silver, when we see tid of 37,38,39. HH

 

[pelanj]

Still, it does not make any sense to me. How could then iron get negative ID and at the same time a high beep in the conductive mode? Anyway, it does not really matter

 

[john4840]

Still, it does not make any sense to me. How could then iron get negative ID and at the same time a high beep in the conductive mode? Anyway, it does not really matter

It does make sense it the piece of iron is large then it would have high conductivity, That's why if I search in conductive sounds and notch out the negative numbers and TID #40. Because the numbers will bounce from negative to 40 giving the high pitch sound. This is why Minelab setup the (coins mode) and (coins and jewelry mode) on the X-Terra 70 to limit the amount of iron dug up, because its TID numbers are based on conductivity. It will give a good tone on large iron. believe me I know I have an X-Terra 70 and found large pieces of iron with it. It might be better to hunt in ferrous sound mode with Quattro/Safari that way you would not have to worry about loosing any good targets.

John

 

[DaugBiscuit]

I think this has been a very informative thread but as I look back at all the posts, I find that Prep1957 and Mtnmn had it right all along. They both said the main thing about

 

[john4840]

I think this has been a very informative thread but as I look back at all the posts, I find that Prep1957 and Mtnmn had it right all along. They both said the main thing about

 

[eliisawolf]

This has been a great thread- thank you!

 

[DaugBiscuit]

Two days ago I received a personal e-mail from a Minelab Systems Development Manager in Australia. He said there has been a discussion with their people about the question I presented and that he would send me a complete answer by the end of the week. As of today I have received a response from three of their department heads regarding my question. Much of their answers are to in-depth to post here because of the amount of reading but basically it comes down to listening to the tones the Safari makes and not about the Icons or ID numbers, those are merely backup visuals to the sounds your Safari produces.

Today a different Minelab technical sales representative wrote,

 

[john4840]

Two days ago I received a personal e-mail from a Minelab Systems Development Manager in Australia. He said there has been a discussion with their people about the question I presented and that he would send me a complete answer by the end of the week. As of today I have received a response from three of their department heads regarding my question. Much of their answers are to in-depth to post here because of the amount of reading but basically it comes down to listening to the tones the Safari makes and not about the Icons or ID numbers, those are merely backup visuals to the sounds your Safari produces.

Today a different Minelab technical sales representative wrote,

 

[pelanj]

Great info! Now it makes sense to me.

Thanks a lot!

 

[detecterx]

Watch the safari test video on MLotv conductive vs ferrous.