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CTX programs & patterns
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Jason in Enid
Active member
you mean the RED link that is on the top of the front page?
or the pinned post at the top of the threads that shows where the "resource center" button is located?
or the pinned post at the top of the threads that shows where the "resource center" button is located?
brother steve
Member
Like Andy says in his book,just don't randomly load programs learn why and how they work. Some will not work in your area . Once you understand the program part of it, you can move forward. Every new program is like starting over. It can get frustrating. I know,I been there.
I recently went to one of Andys Bootcamps and got some of his programs he had worked up and liked.
I've been useing two of them, ones kind and open and the other is specific to just coins.
I was hunting with a friend and he found a nice Indian Head penny, just for kicks I ran it over my coil and was very suprised that it was rejected in the coin program .
I edited the program to accept them right away but found no IH that day.
When I got home I put it on the bench and tested all kinds of US coins, again I was suprised to find that silver dollars and half dollars would not give an audible signal, they did show on the screen but not even a squeak. So I went to edit and opened up the upper right area until they sounded off and then used the single box and started to close the area down until I had the max discrimination and the silver dollar and half still sounded off.
I guess the reason I'm telling this story is that even the Master " Andys " program for coins was not what I needed and I had to adapt it to my liking.
So just start with the stock programs and make them work for what you want.
A little trial and error and it's really easy .
Another little helpful hint is that when your in the edit mode on a program and trying to fine tune it just add or delete a square at a time and run your test object over the coil with each change, no need to go back to the main detect screen with each change, it goes pretty quick and easy to get the result you want.
BT
I've been useing two of them, ones kind and open and the other is specific to just coins.
I was hunting with a friend and he found a nice Indian Head penny, just for kicks I ran it over my coil and was very suprised that it was rejected in the coin program .
I edited the program to accept them right away but found no IH that day.
When I got home I put it on the bench and tested all kinds of US coins, again I was suprised to find that silver dollars and half dollars would not give an audible signal, they did show on the screen but not even a squeak. So I went to edit and opened up the upper right area until they sounded off and then used the single box and started to close the area down until I had the max discrimination and the silver dollar and half still sounded off.
I guess the reason I'm telling this story is that even the Master " Andys " program for coins was not what I needed and I had to adapt it to my liking.
So just start with the stock programs and make them work for what you want.
A little trial and error and it's really easy .
Another little helpful hint is that when your in the edit mode on a program and trying to fine tune it just add or delete a square at a time and run your test object over the coil with each change, no need to go back to the main detect screen with each change, it goes pretty quick and easy to get the result you want.
BT
Andy Sabisch
Active member
Ben
As we said in the class, programs are starting points but hopefully wit the information covered, making changes were done in an informed manner rather than hoping they would work.
I would say that if you were using the 3T COIN program and the large silver was rejected, you must have had HIGH TRASH on as it moves them to that upper section . . . remember that discussion the class had on that "gotcha"?
Take them and tweak them for yoru area and then you will have your detector dialed in for your area and your type of targets.
Andy Sabisch
As we said in the class, programs are starting points but hopefully wit the information covered, making changes were done in an informed manner rather than hoping they would work.
I would say that if you were using the 3T COIN program and the large silver was rejected, you must have had HIGH TRASH on as it moves them to that upper section . . . remember that discussion the class had on that "gotcha"?
Take them and tweak them for yoru area and then you will have your detector dialed in for your area and your type of targets.
Andy Sabisch
Andy
I'm useing Coins Only 3T auto sens +3 , combined , Deep on , and FC , sizing .
I thought it was strange after I accepted the IH penny's is when I did the bench test and found that Silver Dollars did not make an audible sound, they did show on the screen, that's when I opened up the upper right to just allow detection of the silver dollar and it now sounds off with a nice silver tone .
I'm useing Coins Only 3T auto sens +3 , combined , Deep on , and FC , sizing .
I thought it was strange after I accepted the IH penny's is when I did the bench test and found that Silver Dollars did not make an audible sound, they did show on the screen, that's when I opened up the upper right to just allow detection of the silver dollar and it now sounds off with a nice silver tone .
dosnt matter what settings if you block out as I have said you will not hear big silver and people do one square that corner to stop iron wrap and its a huge flaw on the ctx that even after 5 years minelab have not addressed.
really though ctx is made to run a open screen I do not see why running pretty pictures helps find targets
I have only run disc a few times and that was in super super trash and didn't really see how it helped open that baby up and listen and slow down if need be?
AJ
really though ctx is made to run a open screen I do not see why running pretty pictures helps find targets
I have only run disc a few times and that was in super super trash and didn't really see how it helped open that baby up and listen and slow down if need be?AJ
mrwilburino
Member
amberjack said:really though ctx is made to run a open screen I do not see why running pretty pictures helps find targets
The more you disc - the more you miss. While a small amount can be helpful in iron, people do tend to go overboard on the patterns.
Andy Sabisch
Active member
When you have unlimited time and hunt sites that are not trash infested this is the right approach . . . in many cases time, patieince or trash content calls for a different tact and that is the beauty of the CTX 3030
People have repeatedly said that you need to run with little or no disc to ensure you do not miss things since it will not detect in a null . . . do some testing, absolute statements are never 100% right
Each has to determine how much noise / trash they are willing to hear / recover and that can change day by day and site by site
Andy Sabisch
People have repeatedly said that you need to run with little or no disc to ensure you do not miss things since it will not detect in a null . . . do some testing, absolute statements are never 100% right
Each has to determine how much noise / trash they are willing to hear / recover and that can change day by day and site by site
Andy Sabisch
I've been using 2 programs, the High Perfomance and then a modified version of the Coins Only 3T.
They have both been proven in my detector garden and the modified version of Coins hits every coin and does a great job discriminating out small nails and bottle caps and beaver tails that litter the spot I've been searching, and it's been hit hard.
Just yesterday found a nice IH and there was a tent stake and a pop top in the same hole and it picked the coin out at 9"
Found it in the High Perfomance mode and as you can imagine there was a lot going on but had that one good tone in all that mess, switched to Coins and that tone was still there without some of the other clutter .
The right pattern is very useful and saves the ears;-)
Got to do your homework to get that program right for you!
BT
They have both been proven in my detector garden and the modified version of Coins hits every coin and does a great job discriminating out small nails and bottle caps and beaver tails that litter the spot I've been searching, and it's been hit hard.
Just yesterday found a nice IH and there was a tent stake and a pop top in the same hole and it picked the coin out at 9"
Found it in the High Perfomance mode and as you can imagine there was a lot going on but had that one good tone in all that mess, switched to Coins and that tone was still there without some of the other clutter .
The right pattern is very useful and saves the ears;-)
Got to do your homework to get that program right for you!
BT
Andy Sabisch said:
Words of wisdom nice post .
This is stander practice but reality is you have to drive Lot's of miles to find a public place that has not already been pounded with disc .I agree open screen can be a ear bashing but most areas have been hunted using disc you have to do something different to get result's.
You can drive to the next guy's town and the guy in that town is driving to yours . It's better to just hunt your town (because you know it ) With out a doubt most places have not been hunted in open screen . since we have the ability to disc by eye and ear now without having to disc out targets is a great achievement from day's gone past . Slowly we well have hunted everything without disc and wait for new advancements like imaging . sube
Andy Sabisch
Active member
Unless you do want to dig the finds you bought the CTX for in the first place . . . the presets have flaws that were carried over directly from the E-Trac . . . same programs and same problems.