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Deep Coin Question

Will1877

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Alright guys six months in with my new etrac and 42 silvers later I have a question regarding deep coins. First let me start by mentioning what you guys already know this machine is tremendous! My silver count is by no means a way of me bragging because I know this is chump change to what a lot of you seasoned vets are finding, but most of these coins are coming from previously hunted areas that I have personally done. This is a true testament to the capabilities of this machine. With that being said I am not digging any of these coins deeper just getting them out of more difficult areas which is great, but not any deeper. Im not upset over this fact because in my opinion with out fill dirt very few coins in my area are past the six inch mark. However there is this tiny voice in the back of my head asking "is the silver still deeper in this yard" Whats the verdict guys? I live in north western PA cant really say much for soil make up. I use stock coil 90% of time 13 ultimate 10%. I use two settings TTF 50% and 26fe and lower blacked out. I run manual sens at 21, in some areas up to 24. Sweep speed is moderately slow and slow down more so when in target rich environment. I run deep off, fast on, and conductive tones when not in TTF. That's pretty much it in nut shell. I would love to pull a silver at ten inches but I just don't think they are that deep here. But please guys prove me wrong, and pick me apart and tell me how to get that ten inch coin in the hunted out park. Look forward to answers. Mr. Ironsight im calling you out on this one! Ha Ha just give it to me in laymans terms buddy.
 
sounds like a place I'm hunting no fill and all targets are 4 inches deep or less. found four silver two of them seated the ground is hard packed so in my opinion
your hunting the same type place. I've hunted other ground like this and found silver laying right on top. so I don't think your going to find anything real deep there.
but in this game you never know .also I would try auto +3 I dig deeper coins using this setup than in manual I think manual limits your machine to one channel.
 
The short answer is, simply, it depends on the site. If you have a site that floods, the coins will be deeper. I've personally hit IH's at 12" at those places and you'll find that the tone is there, the Co. number is there, but the Fe is way high.

At first I was wondering the same thing, but now I do not worry about it at all. Eventually it will be fun to try a bigger coil and see if I missed anything deep or not.

Your running in Manual, so sweep speed is whatever you want it to be, and slow is good. In Auto, you'll have to have a little faster speed to hear the really deep ones. I do pull out some coins in the 7-8 inch range, but most of the time it is in the 4-5" area.

Now for the big question. Why in the same park can a memorial be 8" and 2 foot away be a 1919 wheatie at 4 inches? That's the scenerio that haunts me....:lol::shrug:

NebTrac
 
I went many public park that already heavy hunted and I found some coins as deep as 8 and 9 inch that most people missed it! I found 1941 wheat cent at 9 inch deep made me wonder how deep late 1800's coins is! Of course depends on ground and soil, Some park that I found 1970's at about 7 inch deep is because of added new soil and grass. I found 1892 barber quarter and Buffalo nickel as shallow as 2 inch deep in heavy rocks and hard ground. Picture that I found 1941 wheat at 9 inch deep.
 
I use Auto 3+ most of the time. If machine said 21, 22, 23 or 24 then I leave auto alone. If too low like 14 then I try manual 20 to 24 but sometime I digging and didn't find anything or iron nail! I noticed that If I force my machine to look for deep coins and its all messy up. I let my machine do auto to all work for me. Maybe because of depends on ground, junk, etc but I don't know. My friend use manual 26 and do very good but I cant!
 
Will I agree with everything neb says in his post. To expand it just a little when you are in ttf and you are getting a good repeatable signal even if that ferrous # is high do not be afraid to chase it if is consistent. I pulled a Indian a couple weeks back that was a solid 24-36 and was 11 inch's deep. and have found some as high as 26 on the fe. tone was not great and fe was high but that consistent 36 co is what i was after. My deepest silver dime was 10 inch's and gave me everything from 6-45 to 22-45 never got the fe to be solid at all but that 45 co never changed. HH Dave
 

I think 21 is too low. make 24 your baseline, try to push it up to 26 or even higher. im always switching back and forth to see what auto has to say also. if youre in a clean area and running at manual 21, but auto is reading 28, youre limiting yourself.
 
Thanks guys. In any site I hunt I never get signals over 7 I just think in my area coins are not getting deeper. I can try to bump sens up but 24 I feel is about max starts to get squirrely there. I know the machine has the depth because in a yard I had dug numerous wheats at 8-10. In this site top four inches was a lite brown soil under that was the nice dark black soil. So I know what deep sounds like if I were to come across one. Thanks again guys.
 
Another possibility of why newer coins are deeper than old ones is.... discing (sp?) In Michigan when rain water sits for a long time in a baseball outfield, and the local little league can't play because of this, they call in the city or county to disc the area. They usually disc at least 8 inches deep, if the topsoil is mainly composed of rich dirt and the clay is 4 to 5 inches deep, they will set blades 8 inches, this WILL help the top to drain quicker. Consequently any coins that were 2 to 4 inches deep, now end up 8 inches deep, and any that were 8 inches deep, end up in the top 4 inches. Of course people (Hunters) not knowing this will really be puzzled as to why they are finding 1970's coins at 8 inches and sometimes much much older ones at 4 to 6 inches deep. I was in attendence at one of these (disc(o's) and was having a ball scarfing all the silver as it came up, as well as Buffies, old wheaties, silver and gold rings , etc, etc. Now when my friends say they found a neat old park from the 40's but, they are only getting newer stuff down deep, I tell them what I just relayed here.......nge
 
I use an EXP II but in my home town if new coins are down deep - like a memorial 1970's - then the area is fill dirt. It's a bummer finding those at 6 or 7 inches but hey, you don't know until you try.
 
nge said:
They usually disc at least 8 inches deep, if the topsoil is mainly composed of rich dirt and the clay is 4 to 5 inches deep, they will set blades 8 inches, this WILL help the top to drain quicker. Consequently any coins that were 2 to 4 inches deep, now end up 8 inches deep, and any that were 8 inches deep, end up in the top 4 inches.

This isn't true. The disc only breaks the ground, it doesn't turn anything over. You are confusing a plow blade which is designed to actually turn the soil.
 
Jason in Enid said:
nge said:
They usually disc at least 8 inches deep, if the topsoil is mainly composed of rich dirt and the clay is 4 to 5 inches deep, they will set blades 8 inches, this WILL help the top to drain quicker. Consequently any coins that were 2 to 4 inches deep, now end up 8 inches deep, and any that were 8 inches deep, end up in the top 4 inches.

This isn't true. The disc only breaks the ground, it doesn't turn anything over. You are confusing a plow blade which is designed to actually turn the soil.
Sorry, I'm not from farm country, but from what I saw was agreat "groundbreaking event" they criss crossed the whole area several times. It left furrowed rows that was very difficult to walk in.
 
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