Deeptargets when to dig or recognize

[vatos]

Hi Folks,

I have to same as a newbie i am very happy with the Etrac and it is a silverkiller.
Just have a questions for you :

Non deep targets: (always search in conduct):

They are given a very nice signal and a stable number (FE/CO)...... nice two way sound when sweeping the coil.
Had also two deeper coins with the same affect.

But i also hear noises , in which i am not sure if i have to dig.
These noises are not given a very nice signals, and the numbers are bouncing around my screen.
Also the depthmeter is given a deeper target but also bounces.
Are these false signals? How can i decide to dig on these sounds...sometimes they have one way sounds and sometimes two ways when sweeping over with the coil.
Main difference are the sound signals according to the less deeper targets.

Hope for your help guess i do not like to miss targets

Ty Arend

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Your question is very "sound specific". I know you are trying hard to describe what you're hearing, but essentially, it's still a "sound" that you're describing .... in printed text .... and the readers have no way to know. Because of course, many will come on and say "dig all the iffy ones", blah blah d/t they might be deep coins on the fringe of range ... blah blah. But gauranteed, those same persons (all of us) will always pass stuff we know is cr*p, that we are pretty certain is chatter, falses, etc..... So really then, the answer is, it depends. And since there's no way, in printed text, to convey a sound, it's hard to answer, in printed text. It would be like asking someone to "please describe the note of C-minor, in print". It can't be done. It has to be heard. So too is it with metal detecting, when someone comes on a forum and says "what is a deep coin supposed to sound like?".

So the only way to know, is either:

a) hook up with someone proficient from your area (someone routinely coming in with the oldies, not just a sandbox hunter), and trade off flagged signals with them. See what they're digging. See what they're passing. Watch the way they swing, listen to what they're trying to isolate, etc... If you get one of those questionable ones, have them listen to the spot, and see what they say, and let them tell you why they'd chase it, or not.

b) dig all the iffy signals, by the hundreds, over the next month or two. No matter how much it hurts. Make careful mental note of the sound it makes verses the object it turned out to be. Eventually, they'll all start to make rhyme and reason, and you'll start remembering patterns in the sounds for the various targets.

 

[NebTrac]

This is why you see so many of us convey our "sound" into numbers. Especially the Conductive numbers. Others can relate how the same number sounds on our machine, regardless of Threshold pitch setting.

Tom's got good advice. The only way you can be certain what your machine is telling you at a certain spot is to dig and find that signal. If you pop the plug and hit it with your probe and get nulling, then you'll have to go into AM, but at least you'll find that signal. A hint would be that iron will typically be down and out (outside your perimeter of your plug).

Play with those signals. Especially if they're doing the "bounce" thing. Circle the target. If you only get consistent signal one way then consider it "iffy". Does it pinpoint the same spot you visualized the target to be when sweeping? What does your target ID say in quickmask?

By "working" the signal and digging a few you'll get a hang of how the targets are acting at any particular spot.

Any more ?'s, feel free to ask and by all means let us know how the progress is coming and some insight you've gained.

NebTrac

 

[Flambeaux]

I understand what you mean. I run into those types of signals everytime I hunt. I mostly look at the CO value. If it stays kind of consistant, then I dig a hole and see whats down there. When the FE and CO numbers are flying all over the place, I mostly keep walking. But give me a hint of a good CO value and a bouncing FE..I dig a hole...Good Hunting

 

[hershey1]

Push your Quick Mask button and check the cursor location. I run my screen open most of the time and with no discrimination I get all the information I need whether to dig or not. Hope this helps. HH

 

[vatos]

Indeed i tried today, by iffy signals i push the quick mask button.
Mostly i get consistant numbers, and then decide to dig...ty very much.