Deus & B.C.'s

[D&P-OR]

What's the most effective/fastest way to I.D. steel bottle caps (crowncaps) with the Deus?-----Is the 9" coil any better in this regard than the 11" coil?

 

[Ism]

Fastest way is a duplicate program in the next higher/lower frequency. If the ID is the same or higher in the lower freq, then its a crown cap.

My Deus has a click after each sweep over a crown cap (11" coil). "beep-clickity....beep-clickety. Can always tell a crown, but I double check it anyhow.

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

I think if you use more silencer then you will hear the difference

 

[smkunder]

Fastest way is a duplicate program in the next higher/lower frequency. If the ID is the same or higher in the lower freq, then its a crown cap.

My Deus has a click after each sweep over a crown cap (11" coil). "beep-clickity....beep-clickety. Can always tell a crown, but I double check it anyhow.

Sure wish someone recored that crown cap sound, my first day out with Deus it was almost all I dug and they sounded pretty good to me.

 

[D&P-OR]

I already got the silencer set on 4 in a backup program.----Going to try a different KHz in that backup program like Ism suggested.--------Thanks guys

I think if you use more silencer then you will hear the difference

 

[Ray-Mo.]

If the next update would make the crown caps a non-issue and improve ID at depth like one other top line of machines the Deus will be unstoppable . As it is it is perfect for the type of sites it was originally designed for

 

[Samuel_Champlain_FTW]

Definitely set one up at 4khz. I find it is one of the best ways to ID it at a decent depth. If they're shallow, the XY screen works okay. I go with the 4 khz.

 

[artd]

if in a park with alot of bottle caps i run reactivity at 2 or 3, silencer 1 or 2 on 8k. slow sweep speed down to almost hover over b.c. iron sound should come thru. if not do a 90

 

[Ism]

smkunder, I have a video I made a while back. I will upload it to youtube soon and post the link here.

 

[D&P-OR]

That would be very helpful Ism, thank you.-----Thanks again to everyone that posted on this thread also.-----------Del

smkunder, I have a video I made a while back. I will upload it to youtube soon and post the link here.

 

[Ism]

Here's the link. I just uploaded it without my horrible narration before and after the demonstration.
It seems to be more pronounced in higher frequencies like 8 and 12KHz, but I can't remember hearing it in 18KHz.
My settings are different for 18KHz jewelry hunting. I can still tell a crown, but I dig them anyway cause some tiny jewelry gives a similar "abrupt" signal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m86CEniHYYw&feature=youtu.be

 

[smkunder]

Thanks that click is really pronounced, so I assume if it was a good signal it would be clean at all the edges?

 

[XP-Man]

XY SCREEN IS KEY!!!!!!!

 

[Ism]

Smkunder, yes, there is no click on a good target or deep rusted crown caps. I haven't heard other Deus users comment on the sound so I'm not sure if it is indicative to my unit.
I haven't checked my 9" coil for the "tell" so I'm not sure if it's the coil or the whole package. I am afraid I will lose it upon a software upgrade (currently using v3.2).

 

[smkunder]

Smkunder, yes, there is no click on a good target or deep rusted crown caps. I haven't heard other Deus users comment on the sound so I'm not sure if it is indicative to my unit.
I haven't checked my 9" coil for the "tell" so I'm not sure if it's the coil or the whole package. I am afraid I will lose it upon a software upgrade (currently using v3.2).

Ism- went out today, and I was able to hear the click on a pretty repeatable basis, although there were signals I knew for sure were bottle caps, I still dug a ton of them that i did not seem to hear the click. Gonna look into that XY screen, but I think this machine loves bottle caps. I did have a better day today in that I found a small gold chain 14K, with a 10k pendant, also a 47 silver quarter. So things are looking up.

 

[Sleepyjim]

Here's the link. I just uploaded it without my horrible narration before and after the demonstration.
It seems to be more pronounced in higher frequencies like 8 and 12KHz, but I can't remember hearing it in 18KHz.
My settings are different for 18KHz jewelry hunting. I can still tell a crown, but I dig them anyway cause some tiny jewelry gives a similar "abrupt" signal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m86CEniHYYw&feature=youtu.be

Nice to have video! I hear the click....Now I got to field test this....


Jim

 

[Hombre]

What's the most effective/fastest way to I.D. steel bottle caps (crowncaps) with the Deus?-----Is the 9" coil any better in this regard than the 11" coil?

The way I identify just about anything is to dig it up A short story on bottle caps: I was hunting at an old corner house lot several years ago, I started finding early wheat pennies every swing. The old side walk in front of the house was being torn out and old coins were everywhere. I soon found a Mercury dime and a two in one hole nickel find....a V and a Buffalo. I was on cloud 9 and just decided to dig any signal, I got a broken tone, looked down and seen the outline of something roundish. It was a rusty steel crown cap, I popped it out with my hand digger, run the coil back over the spot where the crown cap was and got a smooth, deep zinc penny signal. Just under the rusty bottle cap was two deep Indian head pennies.

 

[sprchng]

I have stumbled onto a method of bottlecap elimination which appears to be somewhat site selective but extremely effective and also eliminates the need to switch frequencies regardless of the one which you are detecting in. At first I thought it might be a fluke that only appeared to work in the area I was at but testing in five more areas has shown the sequence of adjustment seems to create a unique and distinctive tone for bottlecaps--occasionally a new cap at the surface sneaks through but they are easy to eliminate by sight most of the time--seems to rely on the caps having a certain amount of oxidation and how you go about tuning them out.