DO I BUY A ETRAC OR A BLISSTOOL

[tony369412]

Hello all i sold my se and want to by a etrac then i started reading about this new bulgarian detectror called blisstool they have various models, the one i wanted to buy is the BLISSTOOL LTC48 they are supposed to be killer killer silver detectors, punching a n incredible 20 plus inches down. I am still leanin twoards a etrac with a specialized coil.

Here are some of the features of this new detector....
Features


- Technology: Induction balance
- Working frequency: 8.5KHz
- Working mode: motion
- Sound discrimination of the metals
- Manual and Automatic ground balance mode
- Resistance in areas with heavy mineralized ground
- 28cm (11") DD search coil BLISSTOOL DD28SC1
- Adjustable iron and tin-foil rejection level
- Adjustable depth of discrimination
- High recovery speed
- Adjustable audio threshold
- Adjustable audio volume control
- 3.5mm Stereo headphones outlet
- 12V/2500mAh NiMH built-in recharging battery
- Single charge operating time: up to 48 working hours
- Low battery indicator
- Consumption: min:35mA, max:100mA
- Automatic battery charger BLISSTOOL DA12250
- Light and robust ABS boxes
- Detachable and adjustable carrier construction
- Robust and comfortable handle and armrest
- Weight in assembled mode (ready for work): 2kg
- Developed and manufactured in Bulgaria
- 3 Year Worldwide Warranty

Technologies

- adjustable audio threshold for fine adjustment of the device

 

[tony369412]

or should i buy a XP Deus Metal Detector

 

[nge]

Looks like an early April fool's joke to me, hence the name "BLISS TOOL" think about that word "Bliss" sounds to good to be true. Where did you see this advertised.....EBAY? If so, Be very cautious. I'd go with the Etrac, it has 28 freq.'s as compared to the Bliss's single freq. Just my honest opinion.........NGE

 

[tony369412]

nge, look like etrac to me too , i saw that french detector xp deus wireless , that looks good too but i dont know anything about it
Tx for the heads up

 

[E-TREC-Virginia]

There are A LOT of overseas users on this forum and you would think that someone would have mentioned this already if it was true or if the machine was any good. I would stay away from it and get the E-Trac. The Deus is very nice as well but a little bit more money. I just got the Deus myself two days ago and plan on taking it out this weekend, so I cannot give you any info from using it in the field yet. If you think you might be interested in the Deus, go to their Forum and checkout the posts. One thing for sure, you cannot go wrong with getting an E-Trac.

 

[earthmansurfer]

I'd go E-Trac. The Blisstool is doing very very well in Europe but it doesn't apparently do well in iron or with lots of trash. It does get incredible depth but there is no screen!!! That is the big one, if you want to visually discriminate you are going to be out of luck. I think, thus far, they are two VERY different machines.

 

[steelheadwill]

Agreed, very different machines.
I am looking forward to hearing from blisstool users.
I researched them a little, sounds like an effective tool, and i believe only $700 shipped.

 

[stasys]

Hello all i sold my se and want to by a etrac then i started reading about this new bulgarian detectror called blisstool they have various models, the one i wanted to buy is the BLISSTOOL LTC48 they are supposed to be killer killer silver detectors, punching a n incredible 20 plus inches down. I am still leanin twoards a etrac with a specialized coil.

Here are some of the features of this new detector....
Features


- Technology: Induction balance
- Working frequency: 8.5KHz
- Working mode: motion
- Sound discrimination of the metals
- Manual and Automatic ground balance mode
- Resistance in areas with heavy mineralized ground
- 28cm (11") DD search coil BLISSTOOL DD28SC1
- Adjustable iron and tin-foil rejection level
- Adjustable depth of discrimination
- High recovery speed
- Adjustable audio threshold
- Adjustable audio volume control
- 3.5mm Stereo headphones outlet
- 12V/2500mAh NiMH built-in recharging battery
- Single charge operating time: up to 48 working hours
- Low battery indicator
- Consumption: min:35mA, max:100mA
- Automatic battery charger BLISSTOOL DA12250
- Light and robust ABS boxes
- Detachable and adjustable carrier construction
- Robust and comfortable handle and armrest
- Weight in assembled mode (ready for work): 2kg
- Developed and manufactured in Bulgaria
- 3 Year Worldwide Warranty

Technologies

- adjustable audio threshold for fine adjustment of the device

 

[Finder82]

BLISSTOOL LTC64 and LTC64X are the latest model, LTC48 is old model.

 

[tony369412]

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[ramer]

Based on the stated voltage it sounds like it takes a whopping 8 double A's and it weights 4.5 pounds. Both are definite turn offs for me.

 

[E-TREC-Virginia]

The Blisstool has it's place.
I have used it and watched it versus the best machines being used by experienced people. This has been recorded on video.
The Blisstool beats them all - E-Trac w/15" WOT and 12x15" SEF, Deus w/large coil, F75 boost, Whites TDI Pro PI, Excalibur.
You name it.

In the farm fields it not only gets amazing depths but it is EXTREMELY sensitive to very small and shallow items PLUS it gives discrimination down very deep to 10"+. And when easily set up correctly it is very stable and fun to use.

On a wet salt beach - it gets gold rings over 13" and gold chains at 3" - no other machine that you would ever use at the beach finds gold chains at all, let alone at 3"!

In a park or schoolyard - in MY OPINION this is NOT the machine to use. No target ID and all non-ferrous sounds the same. Buy the right machine for the job.

"To do the right job, you need the right tool". "The Blisstool".

It's well balance and well made. It is lighter than an E-Trac and of course heavier than an XP Deus.

If you haven't used a machine you have NO right to make comments. If you do - you are a fool. However, you have every right to ask questions.

You are so right about making comments about a machine that you've never used. With that being said, have you used the E-Trac w/15" WOT and 12x15" SEF, Deus w/large coil, F75 boost, Whites TDI Pro PI, Excalibur? If you have, that's an impressive list of machines, if not, your not playing by your own rules.

 

[tony369412]

Barry NY you sound like you know whats up i am going to buy a blisstool are you a us dealer ? i am not sure where to purchase one. .i was confused for a while as to a etrac or the newr xp deus, i know there are many excellent clainms for the etrac, and after market coils...but... i have owned a se pro and have met wih great results but i sold it to buy a etrac, then the info for the dues and the blisstool was introduced to me . the weight differance on the deus is very diffent from the bliss tool but no big deal. either way I want the best and the best could be sevarl different detectors with differnt ground condtions, i am from Connecticut

thanks

 

[Barry NY]

Hey Steve.
I own the Excalibur, the E-Trac, the Deus. I own the 12x15, 10x12 and stock E-Trac coils. I own the large coil for the Deus. I have used for more than 10 hours the Blisstool both stock and large coil.

I do not own the Whites or Fisher. HOWEVER - I never made any comments about their capabilities or how good or bad they are. I believe I said:

"I have used it and watched it versus the best machines being used by experienced people. This has been recorded on video.
The Blisstool beats them all - E-Trac w/15" WOT and 12x15" SEF, Deus w/large coil, F75 boost, Whites TDI Pro PI, Excalibur."

So I play by my rules ALL THE TIME. I am free to tell you what I personally witnessed with my own eyes and after knowing who the users are. I don't sit here and commment about this or that because I have the need to hear myself talk...I have a stellar reputation on all the forums that I contribute to as well as running the premiere colonial detecting event company in the US.

Thanks.

 

[Barry NY]

Tony - PM sent.

 

[E-TREC-Virginia]

Hey Steve.
I own the Excalibur, the E-Trac, the Deus. I own the 12x15, 10x12 and stock E-Trac coils. I own the large coil for the Deus. I have used for more than 10 hours the Blisstool both stock and large coil.

I do not own the Whites or Fisher. HOWEVER - I never made any comments about their capabilities or how good or bad they are. I believe I said:

"I have used it and watched it versus the best machines being used by experienced people. This has been recorded on video.
The Blisstool beats them all - E-Trac w/15" WOT and 12x15" SEF, Deus w/large coil, F75 boost, Whites TDI Pro PI, Excalibur."

So I play by my rules ALL THE TIME. I am free to tell you what I personally witnessed with my own eyes and after knowing who the users are. I don't sit here and comment about this or that because I have the need to hear myself talk...I have a stellar reputation on all the forums that I contribute to as well as running the premiere colonial detecting event company in the US.

Thanks.

Hi Barry,

I was not questioning your reputation and I agree with your statement. But, you are comparing the Blisstool to a couple of detectors that you have not owned and saying it is better. How can you make this comparison and comment if you have not owned the machines that you are comparing it to? Now, if you used them all for a reasonable period of time, then your opinion of which is the better detector is valid and you can make any comment you want. If you are making this comparison based on what you've witnessed or seen in a video, then you are not playing by your own rules, IMHO.

 

[Barry NY]

Hey Steve - last comment on this - I live witnessed the other machines.

And again, I never said it was "better" I said it "beat them all" in the depth comparison test. Those other machines are better in the situations that they were developed for.

Thanks.

 

[calibil]

Is there a well knownfindmall user that has used both the machines for a test comparision? What about uses in our U.S soils?

 

[Barry NY]

Calibil - I have used them both. It is deep. It has it's place. It's not your park or schoolyard machine where there is lots of non-ferrous junk and you need to cherry pick. In my opinion I wouldn't use the Deus for that environment either. The E-Trac is MUCH better there.

If you have "clean" farmfields (and clean means mostly free of non-ferrous modern junk not free from iron) or pasture with DEEP targets or wet sand beach - the Blisstool finds the deep stuff (and shallow stuff) and has very respectable iron discrimination at extreme depths.

Taking it to red clay VA in a week or so to see if it performs.

The right tool for the right job.

 

[E-TREC-Virginia]

Calibil - I have used them both. It is deep. It has it's place. It's not your park or schoolyard machine where there is lots of non-ferrous junk and you need to cherry pick. In my opinion I wouldn't use the Deus for that environment either. The E-Trac is MUCH better there.

If you have "clean" farmfields (and clean means mostly free of non-ferrous modern junk not free from iron) or pasture with DEEP targets or wet sand beach - the Blisstool finds the deep stuff (and shallow stuff) and has very respectable iron discrimination at extreme depths.

Taking it to red clay VA in a week or so to see if it performs.

The right tool for the right job.

Hi Barry, I live in Northern Virginia in the Sterling area (about 21 miles west of Washington DC). What part of Virginia are you going to be hunting? If you're going to be close to me, I would love to see the BLISSTOOL in action.