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Ever Notice everytime a new machine comes appears, Out come all the Rusty Nail Board Testers !

Dancer

Well-known member
So they place a coin in the middle of a couple of bolts, nails. Than things get moved around , the board gets raised, then lowered, turned every witch way. Reminds me of the "Find the pea under the shell game" Don't it ?
I don't believe I've ever seen any of these machines fail. (Now I know thats not all true) So anyway it seems like all these machines were made to be hunted in knocked down nail factories. I hunt a couple of machines that have Iron Audio, I don't listen to that crap. All that being said. Unless I missed them all )how about a test with a Pulltab Tab , up aginst a nickle, some small pieces of can slaw mixed in with some different weight gold rings. Thats what every park, beach hunter has to fight everytime we go out. Let's see how these machines shake out. Most of these smaller coils have good target separation. Iron Audio. How about a pulltab, alum, nickel, gold test. Just Saying
 

IowaRelic

Well-known member
I think I may do this and film it. In my experience, the Nokta stuff is my favorite for navigating aluminum trash. I got to where it could be easily distinguished by tone vs a good target. Especially foil. I’ve also found the Omega 8000 to be reliable for this kind of work.

the mighty NOX is killing me on aluminum. It freaking loves it. I’m talking solid numbers all around on can slaw and foil. I’m not a jewelry hunter so this frustrates me. Aluminum is the only real trash I dig with it. So many targets seem to fall in the 12-19 range on that machine. I am still learning it.
 

Dancer

Well-known member
I think I may do this and film it. In my experience, the Nokta stuff is my favorite for navigating aluminum trash. I got to where it could be easily distinguished by tone vs a good target. Especially foil. I’ve also found the Omega 8000 to be reliable for this kind of work.

the mighty NOX is killing me on aluminum. It freaking loves it. I’m talking solid numbers all around on can slaw and foil. I’m not a jewelry hunter so this frustrates me. Aluminum is the only real trash I dig with it. So many targets seem to fall in the 12-19 range on that machine. I am still learning it.
Iowa, if you run that test, let us know where to find it. That would be good stuff !
 

Nauti

Well-known member
I'm not holding out much hope but one day somebody might recreate this type of test with targets actually under the soil so we can witness "true" results.Anybody else search for targets under the surface or have I got the wrong idea.😁
 

Nauti

Well-known member
That would be brilliant.It would be good to do the stereotype nailboard test and note how your detector reacts with the nailboard on top of the ground.It would then be good to bury the nailboard exactly how it was arranged in the first test and 're test to see how the results differ.Ideally it would then be great to leave the nailboard buried for a period of time and then 're test again,thus simulating actual detecting conditions.
The last test....leaving the nailboard buried for a decent period of time will prove the futility of an above ground nailboard test......I know because I've done it.Experimenting with all sorts of targets,either ferrous or non ferrous can only give an accurate performance indication of a detectors abilities if they are tested in proper detecting scenarios.....in other words where we find them....buried in the ground.
 

IowaRelic

Well-known member
Ok guys. I threw this together. A little surprising. Lots of room to modify and change this test for different results. Please don’t take it as written in stone. This is just one scenario in an infinite possibility of scenarios.
 

Dancer

Well-known member
Real nice job there Iowa, I think that was pretty close to hunting wild. I liked your honesty and not trying to bend one machine over the other. Two machines I hunt can pretty darn call a nickel but when hunting in the wild. It's those iffy signals that might just have that little crackle. Sux me in all the time, so I dig a lot of trash. I keep a tally of % of nickels to Q's & Dimes for each machine. My Analog has a higher % of nickle's dug, but also more trash. So there's that. Again nice job, maybe someone will give us another one.
 

Nauti

Well-known member
IowaRelic.........thank you for your time and effort.I believe that a buried nailboard would prove my point even further when a good target is mixed in amongst iron.
The ultimate test is to bury a nailboard with all targets at one level (which makes it easier for a detector),leave it for a while so the ground can settle and the iron can start to react......exactly how it does under real-world conditions......and then see how a detector reacts to the good target.This test......I've done it........proves that nailboard tests are a complete waste of time when trying to see how a machine will perform on real world targets.
Like your test......good targets are never in exactly the same plane as trash which makes nailboard tests and the like even more ridiculous.......all the claims you hear about a certain machine being able to detect a small target with iron on top,bottom and at different levels around it are............well people can do the tests themselves and make there own minds up,your tests give a good idea and those targets were all non ferous.
Again,thank you for your time and effort,this simple test gives people a bit of an idea and will hopefully encourage others to do their own testing,hopefully people will make long term test beds so the results become more realistic as time goes on.My own test bed,that I no longer use but is still in a field I had permission to detect,was been used to test machines after the targets had been buried for over 5 years......even this isn't a real accurate test as most targets and iron/trash have been in the ground for far longer.The results I obtained were quite a shock.....Many so called top detectors that would easily pick up good targets next to iron above ground completely failed the real world test.Like you pointed out,the only way to get more good targets is to dig more trash.....it's been this way for years and no amount of present technology will change this.In a way this is nice to know as it means many targets remain undetected and those who will find them are those who are willing to put up with digging a bit more trash and put in the extra work instead of trying to rely too much in technology.....you have just proven it.
 

BobOso

Active member
50 tones on the nox drives me nuts, I have no idea what the machine is telling me, 5 tones is fine, but I do wish it could be changed to 8 or 10 tones
 

Dancer

Well-known member
IowaRelic.........thank you for your time and effort.I believe that a buried nailboard would prove my point even further when a good target is mixed in amongst iron.
The ultimate test is to bury a nailboard with all targets at one level (which makes it easier for a detector),leave it for a while so the ground can settle and the iron can start to react......exactly how it does under real-world conditions......and then see how a detector reacts to the good target.This test......I've done it........proves that nailboard tests are a complete waste of time when trying to see how a machine will perform on real world targets.
Like your test......good targets are never in exactly the same plane as trash which makes nailboard tests and the like even more ridiculous.......all the claims you hear about a certain machine being able to detect a small target with iron on top,bottom and at different levels around it are............well people can do the tests themselves and make there own minds up,your tests give a good idea and those targets were all non ferous.
Again,thank you for your time and effort,this simple test gives people a bit of an idea and will hopefully encourage others to do their own testing,hopefully people will make long term test beds so the results become more realistic as time goes on.My own test bed,that I no longer use but is still in a field I had permission to detect,was been used to test machines after the targets had been buried for over 5 years......even this isn't a real accurate test as most targets and iron/trash have been in the ground for far longer.The results I obtained were quite a shock.....Many so called top detectors that would easily pick up good targets next to iron above ground completely failed the real world test.Like you pointed out,the only way to get more good targets is to dig more trash.....it's been this way for years and no amount of present technology will change this.In a way this is nice to know as it means many targets remain undetected and those who will find them are those who are willing to put up with digging a bit more trash and put in the extra work instead of trying to rely too much in technology.....you have just proven it.
Whats happened to me this year. Because of the Pandemic I've (and others) have pounded area fields to about the Max. Only thing left is deep dimes, nickels mixed in the alum tabs and pieces.
And many large areas of dead open ground. Two of these fields, I came home with less than 60 cents clad and a Gold Ring.. Thats , I think what Nauti is telling us.
 

BobOso

Active member
Sorry its been bad for you guys, it been about the same here, jewelry for the past 30 days, uncleaned coins from the last hunt, $93.50 rolled and ready for the bank,$350 cashed in about may of this year. The ORX found most of the jewelry
 

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