Explorer verses the F75

[markg]

Anyone compared the Explorer with the F75 or LTD?

 

[Shambler]

Yep - and I got kicked off the Fisher forum for doing it.

 

[dewcon4414]

Fisher brings its A game with these detectors. But... like the Whites they have EMI issues IMO. In the field... frankly they may be better than the Explorer especially if there is heavy iron or iron in the soil. They seem to penetrate the soil even when held high above corn stocks. The Explorer likes to be close to the soil and you cant always get that in a field which means you tend to loose depth and pick up surface or near surface targets.

Dew

 

[Shambler]

They seem to penetrate the soil even when held high above corn stocks.

This is very true.

In the field... frankly they may be better than the Explorer especially if there is heavy iron or iron in the soil.

not so true - I found my LTD (in DE or BP) to have so many falses at an ordinary tear down that I was forced to ignore small targets (or hunt even slower than an Explorer) and just breeze through hoping I was the first to the surface targets.

 

[Chris(SoCenWI)]

And after using the F-75 pretty heavily for awhile it seldom comes off the shelf anymore. It is lighter weight and a competent machine. I've compared it extensively to my XS. They can pretty much always see the same targets, but even though the F-75 is supposed to be a faster detector in trash you need to slow right down and do the "minelab" wiggle over targets to get even a half way accurate ID. For me it basically comes down the the Explorers two dimensional screen with both a conductive and ferrous read out. Watching the cursor bounce in 2D versus a single line display on the F-75 is a huge difference, and they both bounce hugely in trash, at depth, or near EMI. Which gets me back to the ETrac, what the????

F-75 loves steel crown caps and round iron, Explorer never has a problem with them. They are both equally likely to false on big deep iron. F-75 might be better on smaller targets, I've dug a lot of .22 shorts and slugs with it, the explorer may see these but ID them in an area I never dig, not sure.

At a site like a colonial homestead where you are going to dig everything that is not ferrous it might be my first choice. But if there is trash to sort through Explorer by far.

Chris

 

[UtahRich]

Another good fight.

This type of 'discussion' doesn't usually do anything other that stir up the hornet's nest of whichever 'forum' you happen to post it on.

In truth, you are the one that needs to do the comparison. Buy both, hunt with both and get to know them, and choose the one that you like the best and sell the other. It is unlikely that others can make your personal preference decisions for you.

 

[GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va]

being a water hunter 99% of the time i wanted a machine that might do both and do both really GOOD

mark as u know, the F75 only worked on the damp sand fairly well and loved small iron.................but it was light, battery lasted for months almost, fast and deep, so i used in it the woods only....

got etrac..........worked good on the beach and woods..........heavy...........only drawn back i had with it......control head would not fit in my box............sold it.

after finding out how hot the older exp II's were with the new pro coil, i bought my old waterproofed expII back from the fellow in kentucy who owned it.......actually traded my F75 for it and god did it ever work good on the beach with that coil............it had a great gold ring season, one of my best....... i just sold it once again and now have waterproofed my SE Pro.

to me the se pro is the best beach heater i have ever owned.............c r a z y deep................smooth.............fast....................i know it will work great in the dirt when and if i ever get back there.

M H O only

 

[markg]

Thanks for the information.
My son in law has the Etrac and does very well.
One of my hunting buddies has the V3i and does very well too.
I have the LTD and can say I don't know anything.

 

[stasys]

i used f-75 very little but in short time i dislike sound quality , but 75 much more lither .

 

[dewcon4414]

I dig a lot of shotgun shots and 22 shells out in the fields Chris they just hit various areas im looking at like where flat buttons hit down low. As far as that deep iron, i dont have a lot of trouble with it because normally im using Ferr in the field that really cuts down on having to watch the screen on those high iron and hot rock beeps. Not that you dont still get high beeps because rust tends to switch positions to the lower right corner. Rich we have to have these discussions.... they dont have to get brutal, but you are right he will still have to figure it out for himself. When im looking for equipment ..... i go to the experts on a given site. Ive got enough experience to disregard BS, braggers, and once a month users. You can get some interesting opinions and it gets you thinking about how you been using your machine. Gives you an insite into other brands as well from people using both. GDM, the only thing i find with the explorer is there is a LOT of beach out there and you pray for a target just so you can stop swinging... then you realize you have to dig a ton of loose sand to get to a pull tab haha. You know you put in a full day if you beach hunt very long.

Dew

 

[GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va]

n/t

 

[GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va]

i dug maybe the deepest ever quater yesterday ever..................the pro is going to give me shoulder and arm problems for sure.......................got to love it......it is scary deep in the damp zone.
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[captn_se]

There is no better detector in the "turf" than an Explorer/Etrac. But I do wish the Explorer was as light as the F-75 (3.5 lbs). I would be one happy camper!!!

The F-75 has problems, like Chris said, with crown caps, and other smaller pieces of aluminum (falsing high). That's a major problem in areas that are ridden with aluminum, which pretty much describes the turf areas I typically hunt. The Explorer never has this problem. The Explorer also has better ID accuracy at depth than an F-75. I also prefer the tones of the Explorer over an F-75. The ability to noise cancel problematic EMI is also a big plus for the Explorers which the F-75 lacks.

A couple of my buddies have F-75's, and yes, they make some great finds with them, but they dig more falses (trash) than I typically do.

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan

 

[Chris(SoCenWI)]

It is the .22 shorts and any .22 slug I seldom dig with my XS.

Chris

 

[kozyman]

My Se always sounds off high on aluminum and bottle caps. Guess I need to go back to school. This Se has been a tough nut to crack for me.

 

[Shambler]

In truth, you are the one that needs to do the comparison. Buy both, hunt with both and get to know them, and choose the one that you like the best and sell the other.

You will lose roughly $400 in order to do a comparison yourself. Find a club near you and ask some folks face to face. Or better, hunt with them and see what they dig.