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F70 vs. Omega 8000

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Woodstock

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Hey everyone, I'm looking for some feedback to see if anyone has owned both and which one the thought has hotter on coins? I have an Omega and it's a silver beast and I used to have a F70 for a backup to my F75 and sold them both and never used the F70. Now I'm wondering if the F70 was just as good or even better than the Omega?
Let me know what your opinions are! HH, Woodstock
 
Don't be trying to replace the 'silver beast'...........lol. My personal opinion. There is no better coinshooting detector currently on the market in the price range of the Omega.
Heck, Bart is a multi-line dealer........guess what detector he got his son............an Omega.
 
That's great news cause then I know I'm using the best I can get..it's just that sometimes I feel I need to justify my choice seeing that I never gave the F70 a chance. My F75 did it all but was a lot to learn with the hours I spend detecting..I miss that as well. But my find count has went up since I've owned the Omega and I have nothing but fun with it. Thanks for all the input ! HH, Woodstock
 
I did the same thing to the Omega that you did to the F70. I had it for a short time and decided it wasn't what I wanted.
Many claim that their coin count has gone way up using the Omega. I know it was a very quiet machine. It was simple to use.
I am thinking I should give it another try.
Thanks for reading and Happy Trails to you......Z
 
I have used both & like the F70 a little better for my type of hunting which coinshooting is a rarity. To me, the F70 is basically an F75 with a couple less bells & whistles I never use anyhow. The F70 has a stonger "feel" to it, or maybe a better build quailty & to me is a bit deeper, but with that you get more "chatter" like the F75. Omega probably gets the nod in heavy iron. If you like a "silent search" unit then the Omega would be the one. Sometimes it's so quiet I had to run my shovel near the coil to make sure it was still on.........
HH,
Bill
 
Thanks Bill for your output and I feel privileged to have you add to this thread because I know you know your machines. But what you said got me thinking about detecting in general. When I started I believe everyone was a coin shooter and detected solely for that purpose. But that didn't mean I didn't find a relic or two on the path. Once and awhile I found a relic that was a keeper. Today we have coin shooters, tot loters, relic hunters and electronic prospectors and way back when I never seen that coming. So I can get confused when users call F70's and F75's relic hunters and not coin shooters. Almost like relic hunter toss any coins they find over their shoulders...and that ain't happening.
Do you think that because you relic hunt that your coins are fewer because of the areas your detecting? And do you know anyone who uses the F70 or F75 just for coin shooting?
I'd like to hear out of all of them which ones are excellent coin shooters. Because right at this point it seems the overwhelming replies have been in favor for Omegas.
Happy "relic" Hunting and Trails to you, Woodstock
 
Bill L. has quite a few excellent videos on YouTube. You might want to check them out.
And Bill...........its nice to see you posting again..............folks can really benefit from your experience. Welcome back:)
 
I have had the F-70 for 3 years and the Omega for over a year I use them both for coin hunting along with a CZ-70 and I use all three the best coin shooter is the CZ-70,the f-70, and then the Omega in that order but when its dry as its been this summer the CZ-70 hands down, I have found coins with all three the Omega is great if you are looking for coins in 0-7" range (silver) I have never found any over 7" with the omega the F-70 9" the CZ-70 10-11" the omega is simple to use if you cant find coins with the Omega the their is none their or metal detecting is not for the person using it. HH:detecting:
 
My question exactly TerraDigger ! Not that I'm doubting you Cache Man cause results vary from user to user but 7"? I can even hit that in my test garden that stops about 10" with silver quarters. And that's not every time either, that depends on the moisture in the soil, ground balance and other tiny adjustments. And when I hit old silver or copper almost all of my hits have been from 5" to 9" range at old homesteads and even a few at "worked out parks" but then 7" would be average. Are you saying by that 9" measurement on the F 70 that's that's an average? Cause then your deeper hits would be in the 7" to 11" range. About two weeks ago I hit a Merc at 8" with my 10" stock coil in damp ground with a solid signal and I'm confident it would have hit at 9" with no problem. And I have yet to use my 11" DD.
And I used my T2 and F75 and F75Ltd and although they did achieve better depth I was never sure if it was a coin. With my Omega most of the time it is what it says it is, I have to add I scrub the ground and don't hover 1" or 2" above it.
So what I really wanted to know and maybe I should have been more clear in my question was what machine gives the best depth and best information by what is says on the screen and in your ears as well. Thanks Cache Man for your review. But from what I've read and seen for myself by my own observations is that the Omega and F70 are at least equal in depth capabilities, the Omega is better at total ID information and that the T2 and F75 (both models) are better slightly in depth but lack in total information. And this is the way my Omega would act at extrema depths so my conclusion is this. That on any given day, depending on conditions their depth would be almost equal when it comes to solid, readable and hear-able hits on coin sized objects using a 11" DD coil. What do you think TerraDigger? Anyone else feel like my conclusion is correct? Happy Trails, Woodstock
 
The reason I asked Cache, and of course I have no doubt that Cache is accurate and truthful, is that several posts I have read from owners that have both the F75 & Omega, state that the Omega outfitted with the 11" coil equals the F75 in depth as far as coinshooting goes. Plus the Omega ID's those deep coins using the 11" DD much better than the F75. There are other types of hunting (relic) where the F75 handily beats the Omega. As it should be. The F75 does cost considerably more money. Its a very good machine.
Air tests are of limited value, but on 60 sens, 0 disc.......with the 11" DD attached, my Omega can pickup a quarter at 12". Thats 60/99 sensitivity. And the Omega has no problems punching through highly mineralized ground. Tom Dankowski field tested the Omega for a couple of months. Said it was a good machine for the money. But when the 11" DD came out, and he put it on the Omega.....in his words..............."it was like a whole new detector".........both in depth and working in heavy iron. It especially excelled at finding non-ferrous objects co-located with ferrous iron. Way better than the F75.
There simply is not a better value for the money for strictly coinshooting, with the 11" DD is added to the arsenal, than the Omega. Just my opinion:)
 
If both were set up with 11"dd's, does it then become a matter of items like, balance, battery life and ease of change, headphone plug placement? I can see some features on the Tek that might work better for me, like the disc and sens knobs that could be easily adjusted while hovering over a target? I will tell you this, those DP tones on the F70 truly give a person some great audio target input...seriously, you can distinguish a copper cent from a dime, and canadian copper pennies have a higher pitch than a clad dime as well, bottle caps from coins, etc... If the TEK has dp tone feature, it looks like something I would be very interested in. a deep silver ping on the dp tones, and then a quick hover and knob twist to verify would be perfect! That would be much quicker than scrolling through the program on the F70 for sure. It would be great to change sens and disc quickly while hunting, which I just about NEVER do now. Jimtn over on the Tek thread seems to do real well with his, I have not had the pleasure of giving one a spin, but it looks like something I will consider if I ever had to replace my F70...As a side note, as much ground as we all cover, what are the odds that either set up would miss a silver at the effective depth? Is it a matter of the above mentioned features then?
help!
Mud
 
I had the F 75 and now the LTD along with the Omega, and my Omega will not equal the depth of either the F 75 or the F 75 LTD. For coin hunting, the Omega outshines the F's, but depth compared is not one of its bright spots. Now, I do find that the 11" coil gets a little more depth then the 10" stock coil. Not much more, but still a little. Over here in my side of Tn I have dug a couple of coins with the Omega at a true 8-9." But, digging 9" deep coins isn't going to occur every outing with the Omega and even then, conditions have to be right. My 2, anyway. HH jim tn
 
It would take me an hour to type all the little nuances of how the Omega accurately identifies targets..........and having owned the T2...the Omega is quite different in its approach/results. People fault the Omega, saying Dave J. dumbed it down for the user, by the lack of control knobs/menu interface. Nothing could be further from the truth. What I am finding is that Dave & team put all kinds of hidden programming (target responses) in this thing that will never show in a user manual. It's up to the user to discover them, as I have, with extensive bench testing of different metals & co-located targets. All I can say is, this machine is alot more than it appears. I think thats why JimTn does well. He knows the subtle ways the Omega responds to targets. Hard to put in words, but one realizes the Omega was programmed to do these things. It was not by accident. I think Dave J. alluded to the Omega's abilities, as it all being 'under the hood', in a post of his I read somewhere. He wasn't B.S.'ing with that statement.
The Omega just seems to identify trick targets more effectively and in a different manner than another machine I have used.

Would love to get JimTn's opinion of what I perceive is unique about the Omega.
 
I hunt with both the Omega and the F-70. I hunt battlefields, farm fields and woods with the F-70 with the 11" DD coil. I consider all other hunting coin shooting and use the Omega. Sorry I can't add to the other posted info. It was great.
 
Thanks John LA for your honest input. It seems to me now no matter what I deside to do that with either the Omega or check out the F 70 agaim I'd be happy with either one. Hopefully soon I'll know if I want to stick with the Omega or recheck the F 70 again. If I do that I will post what differences I see in both for all to read as well.
HH, Woodstock
 
Terra, I can't describe what I consider, as do you, to be unique about the Omega for coin hunting, but there definitely is something special about it. It just seems to have the ability to lock on a coin at its near depth limits and leave one with little to no doubt as to dig. It flat out loves coins and once one learns the subtle ways it announces them one will learn to love the Omega, as many of us do. HH jim tn
 
So the long held belief that "if you love something than let it go and if it comes back is was met to be" doesn't apply here, eh? And the "you don't know what you've got till it's gone" is the rule, right? HH, Woodstock
 
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