WV62 said:
Revier,
It worked, just a simple name change and everybody thought it was something special. I know I fell for it, I didn't really buy into it until just lately when I started comparing my air test numbers with other machines I have had.
What got me was the numbers for my old F5 were actually close to my F75's BP numbers with the 11"DD coil. As soon as I do a cutting and pasting I will post the side by side F75 to F5 numbers.
Ron in WV
Yea Ron, SL, Boost, mode, process...potatoes, potatas.
It is kind of special, I use it a lot now here in the SE and seem to get some more solid tones and numbers using it on the really deep stuff using my two smaller coils, sometimes I get no signals at all unless I use it with those smaller coils at my current limit of 7-8" which is pitiful compared to the much better soil in Kansas but for here is a hard fought victory.
There is a whole layer of targets past the 5" that I believe most around here have missed forever because signals change into almost unintelligible and skewed weird ones as you get deeper but not so unintelligible to me anymore.
Using the larger DD coil not quite a problem missing those deeper targets in DE vs. boost from what I remember while learning and tweaking but I have to experiment a little more next time I mount that coil.
My favorite park I hunt most of the time has tons of trash and huge amounts of iron so the sniper is my usual go-to coil more often than not.
Ron a question about your settings during this air test bench mark process...
I assume all were done indoors, and was this in all metal or disc or both and what we're the thresh and sense settings?
I mentioned earlier out in the field different conditions might come into play a lot when I choose settings to hunt with, not only soil conditions but EMI and how much noise I am willing to put up with at any given time which does change for me on my hunts.
I have no DST shielding so my noise levels can run the gamut from extremely noisy to very quiet, sometimes even very quiet on very high settings so I adjust accordingly.
I can deal with a huge amount of noise but I lately I prefer a quieter environment if I can find good and still deep or good unmasking settings for that.
There might be comparable settings using boost and lower gain and thresh to DE speed and higher settings in the field from what I saw early on when I was doing a lot of experimenting...in good soil anyway.
I wish I still lived out west hunting in that good low iron non mineralized soil because everything there seemed much more normal and obvious compared to where I hunt now where everything is so weird and skewed past 3".
I mentioned that deep target I dug at 15", still the deepest thing I have ever gone after and recovered to this point and I was not using boost.
At this same location I started hunting in the edge of this old park near the street that always had more EMI problems that I have ever come across before or since.
This was before I really started using all metal, monotone, more negative thresh or anything else I have now learned to mitigate the EMI problems and other noise I know now.
Still, in this noisy problem area in previous hunts I managed to find some great targets like a gold ring nestled between two pieces of iron and my deepest coins, a coin spill actually composed of oneold wheat and three Indians laying at between the 7-8" level...maybeup to 9" on a few.
This spill was found with the big DD, sense at 80, thresh around -1 and 4H tones.
Even with all the jumping this was solid and repeating enough for me to investigate.
On another hunt I started on the edge of the park in all that noise but got tired of that so I moved to another more quieter area for a break.
Big coil again, settings were sense and thresh maxed out and 1F tones, DE speed so no boost and decently quiet at that, this thing was a very solid audio hit with numbers jumping from the mid 20's up to 40 but mostly in the mid 20's to low 30's.
As you know on these Fishers at the very end if the scanning field you might get audio but the screen might just go blank but not on this thing, I got screen info on every pass from more than one direction.
I tried all metal too and got the same audio and visual behavior.
When I hit the pinpoint button and saw 13-14" numbers pop up I was shocked, so I went after it out of curiosity if nothing else despite those lower numbers.
It was a thumb ringer off an old bicycle bell at 15"...I measured that one to be sure, pic below.
A bit bigger than a coin but I was still just thrilled to have dug that deep and found a target at the time...still am.
Surprisingly the VDI was pretty accurate because this was a 27 out of the ground.
Could I have hit this thing in boost and lower settings I don't know, never thought to try it at the time.
Could I have gotten this hit using the sniper...I doubt it but stranger things can happen I suppose.
Right now in my devil dirt I use boost most of the time in both all metal and disc and seem to be getting deeper than others I know or have managed to hit in the past with other detectors and I am finding great things so I guess I am on some sort of good track but I will continue to try DE and other settings too to see what happens.