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Fisher czx coming out next year
- Thread starter supertraq
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MattBullSummerville
Well-known member
Seems a couple of the good old companies are coming out with new rigs. I'd love to hear more about this one.
Matt Bullock
Matt Bullock
HaroldILL.
Active member
Is this for real? I heard about a New CZ for years now.They better do it while the Great Dave Johnson is still there.
When it comes, and I believe someday it will, I will be thrilled. Anyone know when the gossip started? I cannot remember a day when this same topic was NOT getting kicked around.
Any manufacturer who feeds the fire of new version's soon release, quenches the sales of their current product. First Texas seems like a pretty solid company to me. That said...
Any manufacturer who feeds the fire of new version's soon release, quenches the sales of their current product. First Texas seems like a pretty solid company to me. That said...
I'd love to see a waterproof CZ with a meter. But if I couldn't have that I'd settle for a CZ-21 with a distinct sound for every Category. The 21 is a great machine, I just dislike that targets in the coin categories all sound the same and foil and pull tabs have the same basic tone.
As long as Minelab refuses to update the Excalibur Fisher has a golden opportunity to grab market share if they would update the CZ for us elderly beach combers. In both cases, do they really need 200 feet of waterproofing? How many really dive? Existing tech should be fine for that, right? Just add a beach unit that reflects new tech and at $1 to 2 thousand dollars price point they would sell like mad. Agree?
Coilfisher
New member
pasttom said:
It all comes down to marketing and sales.
I am sure all the companies have the next best idea and prototype.
What the question is---Is the current mix selling/making money? Or are they making enough on repairs or upgrades? -Maybe even some bucks on current accessories?
If they are losing market share to other innovative designers then they will have to lay down something new and improved.
A competitor unit to the AT PRO and CTX? If it was my company--you betcha.
A waterproof unit for shallow water hunts and downpours--If it was my company--Heck Yeah!
And, I agree with the above post...Those that use the detectors for 200 feet of diving...Perhaps, they would warrant a higher price as they are probably used by such a low % of detectorists.
So you got to figure if you were a detector company the best time to probably throw it out would be early Spring?....Maybe a bit earlier?
One can only guess as there are no official statements to date that I know of.
Mxt Sniper
Member
I saw some Fisher information in print, the first new CZX is going to be a Nugget detector for starters, built by Dave Johnson, two freqs, new form of ground balance, deeper than current vlf's, 1K price range. More detectors to follow in that czx range, also a new Mosca detector is coming out from Fisher, The Mosca is amphibian detector good to 10 ft deep, 2 freq, wireless headphones, 2 aa batts, auto ground balancing. 1200-2K range. This was info. printed by Fisher for Dealers, cell phone pic taken of it at some meeting.
mrwilburino
Member
Mosca (Spanish for "fly") is an odd sounding name for a US machine and seems out of character among the current Fisher lineup. CZX sounds way too much like CTX. Maybe these are just temporary names for projects that are in some stage of development. So far the only information I've seen is from a blog post from last spring. It gives some details about the new machines along with pics of the info from some type of presentation cards. The blogger states that he "heard Fisher give a speech" in which they stated that the new machine would "show a picture of a find before it is dug up." They also said that the price of the machine would be no more than $2,000. I certainly would like to see this holy grail of metal detectors materialize; and especially at a price that would be bargain-basement for that level of performance; but I don't know......... Rumors of a new multi-frequency machine from Fisher have gotten to be a real tradition on the detecting forums. They come and they go. Makes for interesting conversation around the old laptop. Also a good way to bring traffic to your blog.
I would agree that the lower the price point the better the sales, but there are other issues- build quality and sustainable profit margin. Few of us REALLY understand how much expense there is beyond cost of manufacturing. Decades ago there was an LA late night car salesman who bragged he sold at a loss, but he sold so many cars it made up for it. He actually did jail time. Supertraq, your CZ20 (now 21 and old enough to vote) sells for about $1500 now and the F75 SE is about $1,100 according to a large internet dealers price list. I want top quality and from a company that will still be in business. I'd be happy to see a price between 1 & 2 if you don't want to go past 1 that's fine. There are no flies on hunting with old tech and being happy with what you have and can afford.