re still there, where by ear, you can know for sure that you are digging a definite coin, both Indians hit at 8-39 and 8-40 and all though I didn't know that coins would com12 modern pennies, 3 clad quarters, 2 clad dimes, green matchbox car, 4 wheats, 2 Indians 1889, 1898 and the flipping coolest 1913 Barber Dime (real sharp) that has its face pushed outward a 1/4 on an inch in a jewelry type fashion (this I will photo and post because it is way cool looking), a dog tag and trash.
All of this was found at a park I had never hunted in before in about 3 1/2 hours. I also dug 6 nails, 4 screw caps, several bits of aluminum, some pull tabs and some tin trash lids and assorted pieces of tin. Pop cans that sounded off like medium depth coins but were only 1 inch deep (from tone, I could neither tell depth or size, I don't use pinpoint on clean hits, never have; my gain setting being at 24 might explain this) and also small bits of aluminum.
First off the ground at this site was 2 inch fissure wide crack dry, which may explain some of this to a degree.
After only hunting with the ETrac for 15 hours so far, an expert does not make, for sure: I have found absolutely no target whatsoever that I couldn't have found with my SE. In fact at some sites, I know I would have found more with my SE, because I could have picked through the trash way more effectively with all metal than this nulling discrim is doing. I have tried to hunt in all metal which is impossible because small iron and most US coins share the cond #'s and they have left us no option to hunt in ferrous as most coins come in with a 12 ferrous reading. The machine is faster but that speed is stymied by the historic problem of using to much discrimination and NO, the fancy bell and whistle programming (heavy trash, difficult or neutral soil and such) definitely is not not making up for that. The machine in dry soil utterly sucks in auto sensitivity, have never seen it climb above 20
20 only once, by the way); all other times it hovers around 16. Air testing a quarter at 16 auto, I get 6 inches, at 30 manual: 10 inches. Which would you hunt in?? Before you answer that, when I put the machine in manual and start to push it, the screen hangs, it falses high on nails, the trash program starts to react to the falses masking out other targets, my only saving grace was running long or smooth audio. Most effective means I have found in trash so far is to put it in fast, high trash, difficult ground, manual sensitivity 26, open up the smart find to a flat 20 ferrous accepting all above, conduct tones, putting it in long or smooth, and all though with these settings I can pull some difficult targets out of trash, without the ability to use all metal, these targets are not deep and nothing I couldn't have done with the SE so far. The iron nail video's impressed me, so far I have not seen this machine duplicate that in the trash at any depth greater than 4 inches. Even with a smaller coil and higher manual sensitivity, again the soil is very dry and may be different with moisture. The "quality" tones for coins are there, several times I absolutely knew I was digging definite coins even if I did not recognize the numbers. Most trash sounded like trash, with time, it could be easily ignored by quality of tone alone. The way I have been hunting is to use some sort of pattern, and when I get what I think is a maybe, I hit the quick mask button (which screen I leave wide open), problem again is I am in conduct tones.
In a nut shell, if you have any Explorer, I would recommend saving your money until ML corrects this non ferrous tone machine into one that truly takes advantage of the faster processor allowing all metal hunting with the ability to hear a difference between iron and coins. For the guys who hunt win IM 27 conduct with their current machines, if you open the screen further than ferrous 20 (only 1/3 rd of the screen being accepted) it already is giving high tone nail readings, Can't imagine opening it up further
If they had redid the SE, but put in a faster processor, it would easily out hunt this machine in the hands of an experienced user. When we get rain I may change my mind. As for the hot rocks and coal slag experiment I did earlier this week, yesterday morning, I tried to show my son the same experiment, only to find I could not repeat it, no matter how much I changed my settings It blanked out on the coins this time. I am going to play with it and figure that out. The largest benefit I see for me with this machine is that it handles the mineralization better, but so far, only in auto sens that hangs around 16 and gives little depth improvement, which an SE with a smaller coil could accomplish anyway. AGAIN this may be because it is so dry hear, but go ask Bryce that question who's yanking coins out with his SE.
Sorry for the negativity, no where near impressed.
All of this was found at a park I had never hunted in before in about 3 1/2 hours. I also dug 6 nails, 4 screw caps, several bits of aluminum, some pull tabs and some tin trash lids and assorted pieces of tin. Pop cans that sounded off like medium depth coins but were only 1 inch deep (from tone, I could neither tell depth or size, I don't use pinpoint on clean hits, never have; my gain setting being at 24 might explain this) and also small bits of aluminum.
First off the ground at this site was 2 inch fissure wide crack dry, which may explain some of this to a degree.
After only hunting with the ETrac for 15 hours so far, an expert does not make, for sure: I have found absolutely no target whatsoever that I couldn't have found with my SE. In fact at some sites, I know I would have found more with my SE, because I could have picked through the trash way more effectively with all metal than this nulling discrim is doing. I have tried to hunt in all metal which is impossible because small iron and most US coins share the cond #'s and they have left us no option to hunt in ferrous as most coins come in with a 12 ferrous reading. The machine is faster but that speed is stymied by the historic problem of using to much discrimination and NO, the fancy bell and whistle programming (heavy trash, difficult or neutral soil and such) definitely is not not making up for that. The machine in dry soil utterly sucks in auto sensitivity, have never seen it climb above 20
20 only once, by the way); all other times it hovers around 16. Air testing a quarter at 16 auto, I get 6 inches, at 30 manual: 10 inches. Which would you hunt in?? Before you answer that, when I put the machine in manual and start to push it, the screen hangs, it falses high on nails, the trash program starts to react to the falses masking out other targets, my only saving grace was running long or smooth audio. Most effective means I have found in trash so far is to put it in fast, high trash, difficult ground, manual sensitivity 26, open up the smart find to a flat 20 ferrous accepting all above, conduct tones, putting it in long or smooth, and all though with these settings I can pull some difficult targets out of trash, without the ability to use all metal, these targets are not deep and nothing I couldn't have done with the SE so far. The iron nail video's impressed me, so far I have not seen this machine duplicate that in the trash at any depth greater than 4 inches. Even with a smaller coil and higher manual sensitivity, again the soil is very dry and may be different with moisture. The "quality" tones for coins are there, several times I absolutely knew I was digging definite coins even if I did not recognize the numbers. Most trash sounded like trash, with time, it could be easily ignored by quality of tone alone. The way I have been hunting is to use some sort of pattern, and when I get what I think is a maybe, I hit the quick mask button (which screen I leave wide open), problem again is I am in conduct tones.In a nut shell, if you have any Explorer, I would recommend saving your money until ML corrects this non ferrous tone machine into one that truly takes advantage of the faster processor allowing all metal hunting with the ability to hear a difference between iron and coins. For the guys who hunt win IM 27 conduct with their current machines, if you open the screen further than ferrous 20 (only 1/3 rd of the screen being accepted) it already is giving high tone nail readings, Can't imagine opening it up further
If they had redid the SE, but put in a faster processor, it would easily out hunt this machine in the hands of an experienced user. When we get rain I may change my mind. As for the hot rocks and coal slag experiment I did earlier this week, yesterday morning, I tried to show my son the same experiment, only to find I could not repeat it, no matter how much I changed my settings
It blanked out on the coins this time. I am going to play with it and figure that out. The largest benefit I see for me with this machine is that it handles the mineralization better, but so far, only in auto sens that hangs around 16 and gives little depth improvement, which an SE with a smaller coil could accomplish anyway. AGAIN this may be because it is so dry hear, but go ask Bryce that question who's yanking coins out with his SE. Sorry for the negativity, no where near impressed.
Anyone with a decent background in electronics could pull it off I'm sure.
