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G2, G2..... Is it any closer to being released yet?? Has anyone heard for certain???
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Macedonian
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Last thing I heard was this month but I wonder if anyone really knows for sure even those on the inside.
Although the wait is frustrating I would prefer them to release a machine with zero issues rather then rush the production stage without adequate quality control a repeat of the Gold Bug scenario would be most unwelcome although meanwhile the purchase price paid to the dealer back in April must be earning welcome interest I would imagine.
Although the wait is frustrating I would prefer them to release a machine with zero issues rather then rush the production stage without adequate quality control a repeat of the Gold Bug scenario would be most unwelcome although meanwhile the purchase price paid to the dealer back in April must be earning welcome interest I would imagine.
Mark ( ohio )
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Nothing frys my shorts more then getting a brand new unit, then having to send it back to mfg for repair/replacement... Do it right the first time...But I sure hope its soon tho.
Mark ( ohio )
Mark ( ohio )
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My Gold Bug was messed up when I got it, but Fisher made it right and had it back to me in a week. That's sometimes the cost of getting a first run unit. I'm happy I ordered it when I did.
Keith Southern
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Keith Southern
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some sort of issue with the speaker circuit?? Must mean it's different from the Gold bug in a few way's??? Maybe it has ground grab in Disc!!! That would be great!!!
Might be an Omega running 19khz???Nothing wrong with that....
Keith
Might be an Omega running 19khz???Nothing wrong with that....
Keith
Keith, the excitement of having to wait has done got to you, calm down, please! At the rate you're going, by the time we're shipping G2's, customers will be angry at us when they discover it doesn't detect one-grain nuggets in two feet of Aussie laterite, blow the multifrequency machines all the way to the Marianas Trench in the salt water, and work like a dowsing rod for locating ATM machines when you're on a long road trip.
Mah fellowa forum denizens: the Gold Bug platform project was a push-the-limit-of-performance, yet keep the cost down type project. That's a tough combo! And it hit in the middle of industry-wide electronic parts shortages that's bedeviled our ability to ship and at times even our ability to produce prototypes. So it's been an extraordinarily tough row to hoe. I'm sorry, but that's how it's been: we would much rather have been able to had all this behind us many moons ago and sold a boatload of beepers.
Over the last year a few forum denizens have speculated that this whole exercise has been some nefarious deucedly clever marketing plot to hold stuff off the market to create excitement and jack up demand. Meanwhile back here in El Paso we read such speculation (not from Keith, thank goodness) with amazement that anyone could think that withholding a non-monopoly product off the market could be a profitable business maneuver. I attribute such thinking to television's having replaced education as mental input.
When the dust begins to settle, which I expect to happen within the next several weeks as people post about what they got their hands on, it will become obvious that the Gold Bug platform redefines what performance is in the price midrange. It is intentionally short on features, the emphasis is on getting the basics of performance right. Those who have followed the forums have surely already noticed that despite the platform's rudimentary feature set, virtually nobody has asked where the features were, because the features that do exist are configured so well. Discussion has mostly revolved around delivery issues and ongoing design improvements. And being amazed by the hots.
I don't want to make it sound like the G2 is going to make the other Teknetics products obsolete. Its nearest cousins in the Tek lineup are the Omega and the T2, high performance machines in their own right. For customers who like "features", the Omega and the T2 beat the G2. The Omega has features and performance characteristics particularly well suited for USA coinshooting. The T2 has superior ergonomics and battery life, and has an established track record in relic hunting (cleaned up at the 2009 GrNatRelShootout, we gots the trophy to prove it) and even in commercial gold prospecting (esp. in Africa) which places a premium on ruggedness and ease of use.
--Dave J.
Mah fellowa forum denizens: the Gold Bug platform project was a push-the-limit-of-performance, yet keep the cost down type project. That's a tough combo! And it hit in the middle of industry-wide electronic parts shortages that's bedeviled our ability to ship and at times even our ability to produce prototypes. So it's been an extraordinarily tough row to hoe. I'm sorry, but that's how it's been: we would much rather have been able to had all this behind us many moons ago and sold a boatload of beepers.
Over the last year a few forum denizens have speculated that this whole exercise has been some nefarious deucedly clever marketing plot to hold stuff off the market to create excitement and jack up demand. Meanwhile back here in El Paso we read such speculation (not from Keith, thank goodness) with amazement that anyone could think that withholding a non-monopoly product off the market could be a profitable business maneuver. I attribute such thinking to television's having replaced education as mental input.
When the dust begins to settle, which I expect to happen within the next several weeks as people post about what they got their hands on, it will become obvious that the Gold Bug platform redefines what performance is in the price midrange. It is intentionally short on features, the emphasis is on getting the basics of performance right. Those who have followed the forums have surely already noticed that despite the platform's rudimentary feature set, virtually nobody has asked where the features were, because the features that do exist are configured so well. Discussion has mostly revolved around delivery issues and ongoing design improvements. And being amazed by the hots.
I don't want to make it sound like the G2 is going to make the other Teknetics products obsolete. Its nearest cousins in the Tek lineup are the Omega and the T2, high performance machines in their own right. For customers who like "features", the Omega and the T2 beat the G2. The Omega has features and performance characteristics particularly well suited for USA coinshooting. The T2 has superior ergonomics and battery life, and has an established track record in relic hunting (cleaned up at the 2009 GrNatRelShootout, we gots the trophy to prove it) and even in commercial gold prospecting (esp. in Africa) which places a premium on ruggedness and ease of use.
--Dave J.
BuckeyeBrad
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When the dust begins to settle, which I expect to happen within the next several weeks as people post about what they got their hands on, it will become obvious that the Gold Bug platform redefines what performance is in the price midrange. It is intentionally short on features, the emphasis is on getting the basics of performance right. Those who have followed the forums have surely already noticed that despite the platform's rudimentary feature set, virtually nobody has asked where the features were, because the features that do exist are configured so well. Discussion has mostly revolved around delivery issues and ongoing design improvements. And being amazed by the hots.
A Hardy Hi-Yo Mission Accomplished!!
When the dust begins to settle, which I expect to happen within the next several weeks as people post about what they got their hands on, it will become obvious that the Gold Bug platform redefines what performance is in the price midrange. It is intentionally short on features, the emphasis is on getting the basics of performance right. Those who have followed the forums have surely already noticed that despite the platform's rudimentary feature set, virtually nobody has asked where the features were, because the features that do exist are configured so well. Discussion has mostly revolved around delivery issues and ongoing design improvements. And being amazed by the hots.
A Hardy Hi-Yo Mission Accomplished!!
If a person is buying a machine primarily for coinshooting, well, the Gold Bug platform products (including G2) don't have the features that most folks associate with USA coinbeeping such as notches, 3 and more tones for discrimination, and visual icons to identify categories. Plus it doesn't have a low operating frequency which most folks associate with more depth on high conductive targets.
However if you're a beep and dig coinshooter who keeps the discrimination level below foil in order to get the jewelry, too (in other words if you approach it more like relic hunting), and especially if you hunt trashy sites, then you might regard the Gold Bug platform products (of which the G2 is one) as superior coinshooters.
To put this "great coin sniffer?" thing into perspective: I used to know a guy who bought several high end machines (including ours) for coinshooting and gave up on them and got rid of them. For some reason his wife decided he deserved one last chance at not being disappointed, and got him a $129 BH Tracker 4 for Christmas. Well, if he didn't go out to the park and try it, he was gonna sleep on the couch, so he went out and beeped. And beeped, and beeped, and came home with a smile on his face. It was the right machine for him for park coinshooting and tot-lotting, over the next several weeks he learned its every sound, he beeped and dug, and cleaned up. He occasionally ran into another beeperist swinging a fancy high end machine, and offered to check their targets for them before they dug. He was right more often than the other guy's visual ID display was, and while he wasn't helping them out he was digging lots more coins and jewelry than they were. Despite his helpfulness he won no friends, ain't it a shame? The 6 inch max depth was an advantage for him: he wasted no time trying to chase deep targets that were more likely to be misidentified (and more likely to result in getting banned from a site), and spent his time cleaning up on the quick-to-diggit shallow stuff.
So there's an example where a low end Bounty Hunter was a better coin machine than any of the $900 on up high-horsepower units. In all probability, he could have done just as well or better with a T2 had he taken the time to learn how to tame it for the shallow stuff and then master it that way, but the T2 doesn't invite that sort of use, it prefers to be run like a racehorse.
This is why I tend to avoid making statements about whether one machine is better than another for USA coinshooting, even if the only machines being considered are ones we make. Everything we manufacture that we represent as being suitable for coinshooting is in fact suitable for coinshooting and has its unofficial fan club.
Relic hunting, gold prospecting, saltwater beach, and cache locating are much more specialized and demanding; therefore it's easier to generalize about various machines' suitability for such applications.
--Dave J.
However if you're a beep and dig coinshooter who keeps the discrimination level below foil in order to get the jewelry, too (in other words if you approach it more like relic hunting), and especially if you hunt trashy sites, then you might regard the Gold Bug platform products (of which the G2 is one) as superior coinshooters.
To put this "great coin sniffer?" thing into perspective: I used to know a guy who bought several high end machines (including ours) for coinshooting and gave up on them and got rid of them. For some reason his wife decided he deserved one last chance at not being disappointed, and got him a $129 BH Tracker 4 for Christmas. Well, if he didn't go out to the park and try it, he was gonna sleep on the couch, so he went out and beeped. And beeped, and beeped, and came home with a smile on his face. It was the right machine for him for park coinshooting and tot-lotting, over the next several weeks he learned its every sound, he beeped and dug, and cleaned up. He occasionally ran into another beeperist swinging a fancy high end machine, and offered to check their targets for them before they dug. He was right more often than the other guy's visual ID display was, and while he wasn't helping them out he was digging lots more coins and jewelry than they were. Despite his helpfulness he won no friends, ain't it a shame? The 6 inch max depth was an advantage for him: he wasted no time trying to chase deep targets that were more likely to be misidentified (and more likely to result in getting banned from a site), and spent his time cleaning up on the quick-to-diggit shallow stuff.
So there's an example where a low end Bounty Hunter was a better coin machine than any of the $900 on up high-horsepower units. In all probability, he could have done just as well or better with a T2 had he taken the time to learn how to tame it for the shallow stuff and then master it that way, but the T2 doesn't invite that sort of use, it prefers to be run like a racehorse.
This is why I tend to avoid making statements about whether one machine is better than another for USA coinshooting, even if the only machines being considered are ones we make. Everything we manufacture that we represent as being suitable for coinshooting is in fact suitable for coinshooting and has its unofficial fan club.
Relic hunting, gold prospecting, saltwater beach, and cache locating are much more specialized and demanding; therefore it's easier to generalize about various machines' suitability for such applications.
--Dave J.
excellent post,and thanks for the reply!..yes!..most of us
'cut our teeth" on "beep and digs" back in the 70's and an occasional 'reminder"
of "how much things have changed,but STILL remain the same" never fails to put things in proper perspective!
the concept of "learning",AND becoming proficient with WHAT you have can never be over stated!
(h.h!)
j.t.
'cut our teeth" on "beep and digs" back in the 70's and an occasional 'reminder"
of "how much things have changed,but STILL remain the same" never fails to put things in proper perspective!
the concept of "learning",AND becoming proficient with WHAT you have can never be over stated!
(h.h!)
j.t.
Davr said...
I attribute such thinking to television's having replaced education as mental input.
and you can say it agian... talk about a quick dumbing down of a society.
I love to read and usually have two or three books going at once. Right now I am reading through all of Stephen Hunter's books (reading Havana now, finished Pale Horse Coming on Tuesday), Albert Speer's: Inside the Third Reich, and Walter Marshall's The Gospel Mystery of Sanctification (the re-write by Bruce McRae because it was written in 1692 and the original language, though english is really hard to read.. but it is a great book).
Reading is good for you!! I worry that in another generation people will not have the language skills to read anything written in the 20th century or earlier.. and that is scary because you cannot believe what people tell you.
Did I mention that I want a G2?? I'm happy to hear that it will make everything else obsolete... I hear that it has a non-ferrous magnet built in that will actually pull non-ferrous targets out of the ground so you don't have to dig. It will also clean your finds. It also has Star Trek "masking" capabilities so no one can see you detecting. Way to go FTP !!!
Discalimer (for those who can't understand humor): I made that last paragraph up. It was a joke...
Julien
I attribute such thinking to television's having replaced education as mental input.
and you can say it agian... talk about a quick dumbing down of a society.
I love to read and usually have two or three books going at once. Right now I am reading through all of Stephen Hunter's books (reading Havana now, finished Pale Horse Coming on Tuesday), Albert Speer's: Inside the Third Reich, and Walter Marshall's The Gospel Mystery of Sanctification (the re-write by Bruce McRae because it was written in 1692 and the original language, though english is really hard to read.. but it is a great book).
Reading is good for you!! I worry that in another generation people will not have the language skills to read anything written in the 20th century or earlier.. and that is scary because you cannot believe what people tell you.
Did I mention that I want a G2?? I'm happy to hear that it will make everything else obsolete... I hear that it has a non-ferrous magnet built in that will actually pull non-ferrous targets out of the ground so you don't have to dig. It will also clean your finds. It also has Star Trek "masking" capabilities so no one can see you detecting. Way to go FTP !!!
Discalimer (for those who can't understand humor): I made that last paragraph up. It was a joke...
Julien