Hello all...

[#1Leatherneck]

I dunno, Leatherneck, do you? We look at outward appearances but God looks on the heart.

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[Mike from MI "Iron Brigade"]

First off, welcome to the forum. My 2 cents on your question..... Yes all of us Christians fall short of the glory of God. I believe that many people say they are Christians, because they believe there is a god. Most of them have no relationship with Christ, don't read the Bible, only pray if the want something or maybe have a loved one that is ill. These people don't wish to give themselves over to the Lord. They desire to keep one or both feet in the world. Therefore they have room for hate, resentment, fear etc...... (the things you mentioned) These things are not of God. I believe when a person is truly saved and gives his life to the Lord, he is changed. He will have the desire to live a life pleasing to the Lord. Yes he will still fall short, but there is not room for all those things mentioned in a God fearing washed in the blood Christians life. I remember years ago a friend of mine who is a leftist. He said to me "I am just as much a Christian as anybody else" Right there I knew in my heart he likely has no real relationship with Christ. So I believe most of the Christians that you are seeing all this junk coming from, are maybe not Christians at all. Praying the truly find Christ one day.

 

[Steve(Can)]

First off, welcome to the forum. My 2 cents on your question..... Yes all of us Christians fall short of the glory of God. I believe that many people say they are Christians, because they believe there is a god. Most of them have no relationship with Christ, don't read the Bible, only pray if the want something or maybe have a loved one that is ill. These people don't wish to give themselves over to the Lord. They desire to keep one or both feet in the world. Therefore they have room for hate, resentment, fear etc...... (the things you mentioned) These things are not of God. I believe when a person is truly saved and gives his life to the Lord, he is changed. He will have the desire to live a life pleasing to the Lord. Yes he will still fall short, but there is not room for all those things mentioned in a God fearing washed in the blood Christians life. I remember years ago a friend of mine who is a leftist. He said to me "I am just as much a Christian as anybody else" Right there I knew in my heart he likely has no real relationship with Christ. So I believe most of the Christians that you are seeing all this junk coming from, are maybe not Christians at all. Praying the truly find Christ one day.

That's a fine 2¢, Mike. Thanks for the welcome.

I mentioned VP Pence's policy of not being alone in a room with a woman other than his wife. From Billy Graham, from my father, I knew exactly where that was coming from, but the media picked it up, turned it around and portrayed it as a slight against women and women's rights.

Do you think the hate, resentment, fear etc is being magnified and distorted by the media, maybe in part in failing to understand what makes Christians tick, maybe in part in retaliation for the political support given to President Trump in such a deeply divided political climate?

 

[Missouri -- Ma Betty]

Paul instructed us in Galations that there is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Included in that, I suppose there are neither Catholics nor evangelicals, neither Democrats nor Republicans, neither Americans nor Canadians... none of that is what really matters. We know there will come a day when the sheep and the goats are separated, and there will be a great multitude that no one can count, dressed in white and from every nation, tribe, people and language,,, But it comes down to the condition of our hearts, whether our name is found written in the Book of Life.

This is not about righteous Republicans and satan serving Democrats, it has never been. We give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, to God what belongs to God. Political parties win and lose the popular support, candidates come and go with broken promises, scandals and corruption plenty on every side. But the Gospel of Jesus Christ entrusted to each of us who believe remains the same good tidings of great joy that the angels proclaimed at his birth and the only hope for a lost and sin-sick world.

We've seen it before, we've come to expect it in every election cycle, the hatred, the resentment, the strife, the accusations, the condemnation, the rudeness, the bullying, the fear... but I ask again, how on earth has any of that become a part of the Christian message?

Jesus said for His People called by His name to occupy until He returns--He didn't stand idly by & allow the wicked, who hurt his people by unjust laws that they didn't live by but demanded their citizens to do & there were over 300 of them! Jesus called the leaders of that day vipers & white washed tombs full of dead mens' bones; in other words HYPOCRITES & that is what the DEM Party mainly consists of Lying Hypocrites & RINOS, too! ! They accuse we Christians, Conservatives & Republicans of what they do which is disgustig by Sinners & weak Christians believing them without seeking the truth whether what they.ve said about others by not seeking to learn from God & other means to know these are Lies or truth!

Until Jef repents unto Jesus or all you Canadians, who don't live under our presidents, our customs & laws that are good or not good depending on the House of Representative that is filled mostly with ungody House Reps who by lies & deceit keep being voted into office over & over again & steal we Tax Payers monies by foolish suits because of wanting more power & filthy lucre--their love for money and live in the US--you have no say so to be able to choose or talk badly about our president. whether good or bad! !

It is easy to judge & rebuke when not closely invovled or know not Jehovah God & His ways--that are not our selfish ways because His thoughts are higher than ours , for He is Spirit & He is truth! Satan, the little god of a sinful world LIeS about everything that is God's Good for all people! God never Lies nor fails in His promises written in His Word! How could we be His Children having a personal relationship in Jesus if He did not enter our affairs when asked to do so by our faithfull prayers like our Heavenly Father, the same as our earthly fathers by love & blood relationship?? Jesus is our heavenly Father by having a personal relationship, and cleansed in His pure, shed blood within us by our repentance & God's grace washing us white as the driven snow in body, mind & soul as we yield to His Will & obey all His Word of Holy truth & not belief satan's lies by testing the spirits by the Bible Scriptures to know whose spirit is not of God, our blessed Lord & Savior by knowing Him as our heavenly Father, Whose Holy spirit leads us into all truth! The reason many don 't believe and is that they don't ask in faith believing that their prayers aren't answered the way they want is by not truly knowing Who He really is! His Spirit tells us that by drawing nearer to Him, he draws closer to us, His children adopted into His Family & do pray as his fervent praying saints! We are to study His Word, diligently, to be an approved workman of GOD! So my Heavenly Father recides in me & I in Him and guides my footsteps in His path of light as He does His spiritual works in all my affairs that don't go against His WILL, for all things are done in His Will & WAYS NOT MINE! Amen! Sister Ma Betty

 

[Steve(Can)]

Ma, the den of vipers that Jesus is talking about are not government officials, they are the religious teachers, the Rabbis of his day. The laws he is talking about are the Laws of Moses, just laws, righteous laws. Jesus said you must do what these teachers of the law and what these Pharisees say, but don't do what they do because they are hypocrites who do not practise what they preach. Everything they do, they do for others to see. They put big heavy burdens on the backs of others, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to help. They pay their tithes, but ignore matters of justice, mercy and faithfulness. They put on a good show to look clean and righteous outside, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.

Ma, all that other stuff is fine but forgive me for saying, as I read through your post I am saddened. Where is the love, the joy, the peace that passes understanding, the patience, the kindness... all these things that are bestowed by the spirit upon those who believe? As John wrote, hold on to what you have, let no man steal your crown. Nobody can steal away what God has given you, no government, no law, no lousy neighbour, no nasty co-worker, no hurtful family member, no lying, cheating spouse, nobody can unless you let them.

 

[Missouri -- Ma Betty]

Ma, the den of vipers that Jesus is talking about are not government officials, they are the religious teachers, the Rabbis of his day. The laws he is talking about are the Laws of Moses, just laws, righteous laws. Jesus said you must do what these teachers of the law and what these Pharisees say, but don't do what they do because they are hypocrites who do not practise what they preach. Everything they do, they do for others to see. They put big heavy burdens on the backs of others, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to help. They pay their tithes, but ignore matters of justice, mercy and faithfulness. They put on a good show to look clean and righteous outside, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.

Ma, all that other stuff is fine but forgive me for saying, as I read through your post I am saddened. Where is the love, the joy, the peace that passes understanding, the patience, the kindness... all these things that are bestowed by the spirit upon those who believe? As John wrote, hold on to what you have, let no man steal your crown. Nobody can steal away what God has given you, no government, no law, no lousy neighbour, no nasty co-worker, no hurtful family member, no lying, cheating spouse, nobody can unless you let them.

I know they were religious Leaders just like many are today! He told them who they really were & THE GOV is made up of Human beings good & bad--so I am fighting for my, my family's & my Country's FREEDOM!!!!! I have my Lord & His love & joy unspeakable but there is a time for everything & this is the time for prayers & petitions to MY GOD Jehovah in Jesus' name! If this displeases you & others to judge where I am with Him in my Faith for my Lord & Savior--You are no preacher so quit preaching to me! AS Mike says, Quit preaching to the peanut gallery. as each one grows in faith as The Word teaches & comprehends! YES! I've been guilty of it!

I am saved, filled with Gods Holy Spirit & have shown His love in many ways by FB, by my Inspired Poetry & studying the Scriptures and am an appoved worker of God, by HIM not you nor those who don't understand & haven't read my posts through out 20 years since 2000 with THE ME as my first Computer! Since WE THE PEOPLE are THE GOV or supposed to be, than we need to warn each other against the bad, ungodly ones satan uses to destroy People & nations ! We TRULY Born Creatures in Christ Jesus are to occupy in His place to not only love one another but teach & warn with the prophetic signs given us & use the written Word against EVIL just like Jesus did the Devil when tempted to disobey God His father! To know what is Good & Bad, we must teach & warn that satan is real & uses people who are willing to do his wicked ways--Just like we who serve our Holy God do His will by obediently following, occupying & spreading His truth & righteousnness to ov ercome all EVIL! Committing sin, willfully, condemns the unsaved into Hell's Fire But the love within us by God's love , Who is also real, redeems souls unto everlasting life--But those walking with satan & denying there is a God must be warned to escape satan's fiery hell--some with love others need more to believe & receive Jesus, Who saves us from eternal punishment in HELL! Now let us agree to disagree as we each will answer to God--not each other!

How do you tell who is a godly anointed Preacher, Prophet of God or a born again Christian? By being with them over time --just like we know Jesus by following Him in His light. daily! You really intend to come after me through your dislike of my messages; so my posts must be saying & doing something right! I warn & that is my calling and if others dislike it than go to God & tell Him & pray for me! I speak love & salvation truth when led & I speak WARNING when needed & I also speak encouragement with reminders our Faith must be strong in Jesus when needed like in this election or just give up & let satan & DEM"S Evil Party & Socialism have it!

PLEASE, Now go & preach to those who really need it! I am God's Child & I know His voice & I obey him & not anyone or anything else when it comes to His Holy & Righteous ways! I get stressed easily at my age and with my illnesses that make me sicker by having to repeat my way of serving God & it isn't easy when attacked without much sleep & hurting in my body--My right leg is swollen & has pain beginning! I don't like worldly meds just God's Word of truth MEDS; but may have to just to keep my shaking decreased! I pray but not like I used to do; , So please give up & go your way with Jesus & do what He says for you to do in His calling to spread the Gospel News! I'm tired & ill & only am able to continue by God's Holy Spirit's strength in me! Phillippians 4:13!! I can do all things through Christ Who strengthens me! (KJV)

May God Bless you in whatever calling He has given you! Talking sweetly to the Devil is not for such a time as this! Let us be strong in speaking the truth that evil is surrounding us & it is time to take over EVIL Spirits with authority & stand firm in our faith that God is doing a great work in moving the mountains out of the way as He delivers our nation & His Children from all the EVIL!! Is President Trump Perfect?--No and I'm not but only through His perfecting me day to day! And King David wasn't either but God sees our hearts & whether we are strong enough & willing to continue our good fight of faith for Him! King David was & I believe President TRUMP won't give up either as God reveals how CROOKED this 2020 election is! Just remember, Satan the lying Devil comes to Steal, Kill & Destroy all that is Good of Jehovah God, Who reigns Supreme! Amen! Sister Ma Betty

 

[Steve(Can)]

God did not give us a spirit of fear

God bless ya, Ma

 

[Mike from MI "Iron Brigade"]

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That's a fine 2¢, Mike. Thanks for the welcome.

I mentioned VP Pence's policy of not being alone in a room with a woman other than his wife. From Billy Graham, from my father, I knew exactly where that was coming from, but the media picked it up, turned it around and portrayed it as a slight against women and women's rights.

Do you think the hate, resentment, fear etc is being magnified and distorted by the media, maybe in part in failing to understand what makes Christians tick, maybe in part in retaliation for the political support given to President Trump in such a deeply divided political climate?

I believe the evil one is using the media as one of his tools to reek havoc. And they are all to willing to do his bidding. As for the VP's policy. I can remember 25 plus years ago, our pastor, youth pastor etc.... having the same policy. Not only does it protect each other, but it also helps where temptation could possibly happen.

 

[Missouri -- Ma Betty]

I know they were religious Leaders just like many are today! He told them who they really were & THE GOV is made up of Human beings good & bad--so I am fighting for my, my family's & my Country's FREEDOM!!!!! I have my Lord & His love & joy unspeakable but there is a time for everything & this is the time for prayers & petitions to MY GOD Jehovah in Jesus' name! If this displeases you & others to judge where I am with Him in my Faith for my Lord & Savior--You are no preacher so quit preaching to me! AS Mike says, Quit preaching to the peanut gallery. as each one grows in faith as The Word teaches & comprehends! YES! I've been guilty of it!

I am saved, filled with Gods Holy Spirit & have shown His love in many ways by FB, by my Inspired Poetry & studying the Scriptures and am an appoved worker of God, by HIM not you nor those who don't understand & haven't read my posts through out 20 years since 2000 with THE ME as my first Computer! Since WE THE PEOPLE are THE GOV or supposed to be, than we need to warn each other against the bad, ungodly ones satan uses to destroy People & nations ! We TRULY Born Creatures in Christ Jesus are to occupy in His place to not only love one another but teach & warn with the prophetic signs given us & use the written Word against EVIL just like Jesus did the Devil when tempted to disobey God His father! To know what is Good & Bad, we must teach & warn that satan is real & uses people who are willing to do his wicked ways--Just like we who serve our Holy God do His will by obediently following, occupying & spreading His truth & righteousnness to ov ercome all EVIL! Committing sin, willfully, condemns the unsaved into Hell's Fire But the love within us by God's love , Who is also real, redeems souls unto everlasting life--But those walking with satan & denying there is a God must be warned to escape satan's fiery hell--some with love others need more to believe & receive Jesus, Who saves us from eternal punishment in HELL! Now let us agree to disagree as we each will answer to God--not each other!

How do you tell who is a godly anointed Preacher, Prophet of God or a born again Christian? By being with them over time --just like we know Jesus by following Him in His light. daily! You really intend to come after me through your dislike of my messages; so my posts must be saying & doing something right! I warn & that is my calling and if others dislike it than go to God & tell Him & pray for me! I speak love & salvation truth when led & I speak WARNING when needed & I also speak encouragement with reminders our Faith must be strong in Jesus when needed like in this election or just give up & let satan & DEM"S Evil Party & Socialism have it!

PLEASE, Now go & preach to those who really need it! I am God's Child & I know His voice & I obey him & not anyone or anything else when it comes to His Holy & Righteous ways! I get stressed easily at my age and with my illnesses that make me sicker by having to repeat my way of serving God & it isn't easy when attacked without much sleep & hurting in my body--My right leg is swollen & has pain beginning! I don't like worldly meds just God's Word of truth MEDS; but may have to just to keep my shaking decreased! I pray but not like I used to do; , So please give up & go your way with Jesus & do what He says for you to do in His calling to spread the Gospel News! I'm tired & ill & only am able to continue by God's Holy Spirit's strength in me! Phillippians 4:13!! I can do all things through Christ Who strengthens me! (KJV)

May God Bless you in whatever calling He has given you! Talking sweetly to the Devil is not for such a time as this! Let us be strong in speaking the truth that evil is surrounding us & it is time to take over EVIL Spirits with authority & stand firm in our faith that God is doing a great work in moving the mountains out of the way as He delivers our nation & His Children from all the EVIL!! Is President Trump Perfect?--No and I'm not but only through His perfecting me day to day! And King David wasn't either but God sees our hearts & whether we are strong enough & willing to continue our good fight of faith for Him! King David was & I believe President TRUMP won't give up either as God reveals how CROOKED this 2020 election is! Just remember, Satan the lying Devil comes to Steal, Kill & Destroy all that is Good of Jehovah God, Who reigns Supreme! Amen! Sister Ma Betty

OOPs the Choir--maybe we are all " The Peanut Gallery", as I.m not sure where that came from except I get too tired & ill but post anyway! Ma