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How do you guys set it up for the beach?
- Thread starter Capphd
- Start date
Charles (Upstate NY)
Well-known member
Factory beach program with the following edits:
1. Pattern 1 - Cleared the rejected area from the top of the screen, I don't want anything up there rejected. I left the bottom of the screen rejected.
2. Pattern 2 - Cleared ALL rejection from this screen e.g. I want that pattern all metal.
3. Switched to High Trash mode vs low trash.
4. Using conductive 50 tones now, tried the combination tone mode but went back to conductive 50, edited the high tone to 1,200.
5. I set sensitivity into manual and cranked to 26. The Auto sensitivity is smoking crack suggesting a setting from 14 to 19. I tested auto on a couple targets, noticeably poorer signal compared to my manual setting. Left gain at factory default 24.
6. I set volume to maximum
There is a fair amount of ground falsing even with the sensitivity throttled back. I lowered the sensitivity quite a bit, lowered the gain, improves but its still there. No way this machine is as stable as say an Excaliber. Oddly the falsing is about the same higher up the beach near the dry as it is on the wetter mid beach sand. Down near the watter in the sopping wet sand and in the water it seems more stable, go figure. Here's a top for those who know to hunt along the rock jetties...as you approach the rocks the CTX will get unstable just like all the other machines but right next to the rocks, within a few feet of them the machine is rock solid stable. Stunned I picked up the coil and waved it over a rock and nada. Now the suggested sensitivity on the screen was saying 3 to 7 but the machine was very stable. I tested a fishing sinker, it locked on and gave a strong solid signal. I dug a hole and dropped the sinker in and still got a great signal. A wild guess is the machine sees the rocks as ground and ground balanced them out of the signal. A surprise feature. My Explorer would be screaming high tones near those rocks.
1. Pattern 1 - Cleared the rejected area from the top of the screen, I don't want anything up there rejected. I left the bottom of the screen rejected.
2. Pattern 2 - Cleared ALL rejection from this screen e.g. I want that pattern all metal.
3. Switched to High Trash mode vs low trash.
4. Using conductive 50 tones now, tried the combination tone mode but went back to conductive 50, edited the high tone to 1,200.
5. I set sensitivity into manual and cranked to 26. The Auto sensitivity is smoking crack suggesting a setting from 14 to 19. I tested auto on a couple targets, noticeably poorer signal compared to my manual setting. Left gain at factory default 24.
6. I set volume to maximum
There is a fair amount of ground falsing even with the sensitivity throttled back. I lowered the sensitivity quite a bit, lowered the gain, improves but its still there. No way this machine is as stable as say an Excaliber. Oddly the falsing is about the same higher up the beach near the dry as it is on the wetter mid beach sand. Down near the watter in the sopping wet sand and in the water it seems more stable, go figure. Here's a top for those who know to hunt along the rock jetties...as you approach the rocks the CTX will get unstable just like all the other machines but right next to the rocks, within a few feet of them the machine is rock solid stable. Stunned I picked up the coil and waved it over a rock and nada. Now the suggested sensitivity on the screen was saying 3 to 7 but the machine was very stable. I tested a fishing sinker, it locked on and gave a strong solid signal. I dug a hole and dropped the sinker in and still got a great signal. A wild guess is the machine sees the rocks as ground and ground balanced them out of the signal. A surprise feature. My Explorer would be screaming high tones near those rocks.
mtwolf2270
Member
This what I did in this post but oddly enough I had very very little falsing almost none and ran the sensitivity on auto and then ran it up to 24-26 and still no issues not sure after reading above. I kept with my buddies excal with no issues
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1713203
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1713203
Charles (Upstate NY)
Well-known member
mtwolf2270 said:
I went out hoping the CTX would be as quiet and stable as the Excaliber based on the reports of how stable it is but its not even close to the Excaliber on our south Jersey beaches. The dealer brought down another unit and we tested side by side, both machines behaved the same. Could just be the black sand we have down here. The Explorer was even more false prone so I'm not surprised. The CTX is going DEEEEEP I can tell you that.
saltwater jim
New member
hi charles or anybody for that matter ) is the audiogain the sensitivity i never had a extrax. thanks jim
you adjust audio gain or tweak it for sound definition... receiver gain... something else....like sensitivity knob on regular unit....audio gain the higher you go makes all weak targets and surface targets sound the same .....
you look for a sweet spot that gives you the best dynamic range weak is hear able and usually deep....bangers are usually shallow or large targets deep like cannon balls and what not...
when you run on the edge to much audio gain can cause you to pick up deep nails and make the machine more erratic.... this with fact that the CTX... with to much rcv gain.... SENSITIVITY....can really turn it into to
a bag of CATS ... which in the right place is not a problem .....cause you are pushing the envelope for Premium target retrieval ....gold coins what not.....you Have to sweep more.... more falsing... verify center target in
all metal.... and re-sweep... the standard bag of tricks....in extreme......I do not know if that makes since to yall but I took a stab at it... in normal freefall looking fo hot spots you would back off and run stable......then
dig in when you got a honey hole ......when you find one gold ring usually there 10 more hidden within 20 foot radius on a good beach and has been know to happen in parks if your paying attention...well thats all... from
major tom.... putting helmet.... on.... commencing countdown..... engines on .....may Gods love.... be with you....
Happy Trails
jimpugh
you look for a sweet spot that gives you the best dynamic range weak is hear able and usually deep....bangers are usually shallow or large targets deep like cannon balls and what not...
when you run on the edge to much audio gain can cause you to pick up deep nails and make the machine more erratic.... this with fact that the CTX... with to much rcv gain.... SENSITIVITY....can really turn it into to
a bag of CATS ... which in the right place is not a problem .....cause you are pushing the envelope for Premium target retrieval ....gold coins what not.....you Have to sweep more.... more falsing... verify center target in
all metal.... and re-sweep... the standard bag of tricks....in extreme......I do not know if that makes since to yall but I took a stab at it... in normal freefall looking fo hot spots you would back off and run stable......then
dig in when you got a honey hole ......when you find one gold ring usually there 10 more hidden within 20 foot radius on a good beach and has been know to happen in parks if your paying attention...well thats all... from
major tom.... putting helmet.... on.... commencing countdown..... engines on .....may Gods love.... be with you....
Happy Trails
jimpugh
Charles (Upstate NY)
Well-known member
Digger said:
I tried the manual ground balance feature and decided I needed to go read the manual again as I had no clue what I was doing and went back to auto ground balance immediatly.
saltwater jim
New member
Ok thanks for the response i guess my problem is when i hit the sens button it gives me a choice of auto or maneul i click on manuel hit the detect button then go to turrn sens up the right button by the menu it can go 1-30 however it says volume gain so if this is not the sens setting how3 do i change my sens thanks in advance for any help hh jim
saltwater jim
New member
thanks so much ) dont know what i was doing wrong i kept getting audio gain thanks again jim