KG II counterfeit? Next to Fugio Field

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Worked the Fugio Field for a while tonight with nothing to show for it but a 1942 wheat. Had a theory that I tried at the end of the evening--a straight line when walking between two points that show on the old maps. Didn't seem to be working much until I crossed the road and, after a call from the GF, said I'd dig 3 more holes. Dug one. Nail. Next signal sounded really nice but was bouncing around the screen a lot. Showed as about 8". Started digging. It was one of those that, at least when you have an Explorer, you have to trust that what you heard was good and just keep on digging... Pulled the plug and couldn't hear a thing with the probe at about 5", dug another 3", thought I could hear something faint, dug another 2" and it was starting to sound good, dug another inch or so and it was sounding really good!, then popped out a large copper. Since the oldest coin I've found on this side of the road was the seated dime I found a few weeks ago, I thought it would be an early American large cent but, with a little spit, toothbrush, and flashlight, looked like an old British coin. Got home and water and toothbrush showed up a "II". Checked the Notre Dame site and the bottom of the bust and the thickness of the neck doesn't match at all. Nor the weight and diameter. This one measures 7.9g and 26.9mm, which is distinctly less than theirs, so I presume is one of the counterfeits. How many counterfeit variations of the KG II were there?

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After one round of H2O2 and cotton swab cleaning:

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[James N.D.]

It maybe Counterfeit (or maybe not) but that's still a sweet dig! Congrats on another Oldie and Continued Success, Good Luck and HH to you.

 

[Don in SJ]

I believe your coin is a King George II IRISH Halfpenny, the bust is more like that. With that weight, even accounting for wear I believe it is a counterfeit, but not 100% sure.

http://www.irishcoinage.com/MILLED.HTM I did not examine closely the differences, but here is the site for you to look and compare.

For general Info I have seen figures of around 40% of KGII coppers, being counterfeit, which greatly later with the KGIII coppers. There is a group of collectors that are grouping the counterfeits by "family" and they have done a lot of research on the different counterfeits, and I believe detectorists can be a big help in contributing to the research. Anybody really interested in learning more, contact me by PM and I will suggest a group to join or at minimum, sign up for their forum.

Don

 

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