Hey George.....Actually I still cannot believe the luck!!! I was using the 11" dd coil?!?! It was a fluke, an accident an amazing stroke out of the blue. All of the gold I have found in this patch has been 10 inches or less in depth. The big piece was sitting on bedrock in loosely consolidated scree. There was a 16 gram piece dead center in the middle and about 4-5 inches above the big one. I pulled it out and said "What the H___?" I was ready to give up before the 16 grammer. I have pulled all sorts of hardware out of the ground up there(including horseshoes). I tried the hole again and the md rang like a bell. I went back to digging and there it was..................HeeHee Now I have a pretty good story and a nice nugget. Enjoy the Indian summer It is almost gone......................Bob