Links To Settings For Max Depth Or Hunting Heavy Trash?

[Critterhunter]

I've got two friends who are upgrading from a 6000 Pro XL and an Explorer to Etracs. I told one of them that I'd do my best to dig up some tip sheets and settings info for maxing out depth on deep coins or being able to find them in heavy trash. If anybody has any links to settings for these situations as well as any other tip sheet info please post me a link. Also need a VDI chart and some info on what to look for in deep coin responses. Mainly he'd like to follow what program settings the seasoned Etrac users are using for now since he's obviously got a lot to learn on these machines.

 

[Idaho PRB]

I would highly recommend "The Book" to your friends. I think all those questions and more will be answered there. As far as a TID chart click here

 

[willisjj]

"The Book" ....definately!

 

[Ray-Mo.]

n/t

 

[Critterhunter]

So nobody has any links to program settings for deep coin searching or hunting old coins in heavy trash? I would figure there would be one or two programs people have settled on that seem to max things out.

 

[Jason in Enid]

This isn't one of Whites program-to-death machines. The E-Trac is simple and powerful. It already goes deep. Open up the stock coin pattern. You will dig more trash, but find coins others can't. Go slow, the E-Trac's strength is it's ability to "see" the conductive targets with almost no movement.

Don't over think the machine, just go hunt and learn your detector's language.

 

[Goes4ever]

you can literally pull the etrac out of the box, turn it on and put it in the stock coin mode without changing a single setting and go out and find coins 8-9" deep no problem. I dug a 8" deep barber dime my very first outing with my etrac, in fact it was the FIRST coin I dug and it had 2 nails in the hole with it

 

[Critterhunter]

Somebody gave me a link to Andy's coin program. After reading about it everybody seems to think it's great for old coin hunting, so I'll be passing it along to my friend. If anybody has any other program links please post them. I'd like to see a run down of the various settings and not just the discrimination pattern, though I think the link I got for Andy's also has a settings program for those settings as well.

 

[Nick A]

So nobody has any links to program settings for deep coin searching or hunting old coins in heavy trash? I would figure there would be one or two programs people have settled on that seem to max things out.

Right. You're not finding them because they are not needed. There are no real "programs" just adjustments to how much discrimination you want to use. And contrary to years of advice you've heard, if you are a coinshooter, you want to use discrimination (and the high trash density setting) with the E-Trac for the best results. Preset coin program is IDEAL for deep coin searching in heavy trash. Go slow, learn the machine and you should be impressed.

Two points here:
#1 You do not want to "max things out" you will miss stuff. Use auto sensitivity. Too much power and you WILL lose the phenomenal ability of the detector to find masked targets.
#2 Not all coins are deep. Everyone talks about depth, but more targets are masked than deep. E-Trac can "see through" iron (not really, but almost!) and get you masked targets.
#3 True, there are deep coins. E-Trac will get them, stock coil, presets and all. Sucker goes deeper than I want to dig sometimes. The signals will not perhaps be as clear as shallower targets, but usually there is no doubt that you have a signal worth digging.

 

[Nick A]

Somebody gave me a link to Andy's coin program. After reading about it everybody seems to think it's great for old coin hunting, so I'll be passing it along to my friend. If anybody has any other program links please post them. I'd like to see a run down of the various settings and not just the discrimination pattern, though I think the link I got for Andy's also has a settings program for those settings as well.

Get Andy's book and read it. Then you will understand all the settings. Sure, I could retype all that stuff in my own way in a post or put it online, but the book has it all which is why no one else has done it. Worth every penny if you truly want to learn and understand the machine.

 

[Neil]

This isn't one of Whites program-to-death machines. The E-Trac is simple and powerful. It already goes deep. Open up the stock coin pattern. You will dig more trash, but find coins others can't. Go slow, the E-Trac's strength is it's ability to "see" the conductive targets with almost no movement.

Don't over think the machine, just go hunt and learn your detector's language.

 

[Critterhunter]

I think you are misunderstanding what I'm asking. Yes, I know this "isn't a Whites" that has to be "programmed" to get even modest peformance out of it. Believe me, I'm the first to rage against the endless settings and lack luster results the DFX/V3 give. I used to be a big Whites fan until they started substituting settings for performance.

Besides a discrimination pattern for deep coins and ones in trash (which I believe I found in Andy's pattern), I was asking about any settings programs that set things like gain as to what most believe maxes out performance. Of course things like sensitivity and to some extent gain are highly dependent on the specific area you are hunting, but at least some general guidelines will be of help as to where most tend to agree on in terms of the numbers. That's what I'm looking for. I think the link I was sent also contains a settings file that Andy uses for his coin pattern, so I'll pass that info along as a starting point.

PS- Another setting specific question that I hope to find in some parameter data would be where most tend to set the audio parameters. I would guess there has to be some specific settings that at least some feel provide the best audio at depth and/or in trash to try to max out the potential for sniffing out coins.

 

[Ray-Mo.]

and it depends a great deal on your local soil matrix/conditions.Obviously minimum disc with max gain and sensitivity to the point of instability will get the most depth in many types of soil.After over 2 years and many hundreds of hours use I can run everything maxed out with just iron disced out and do well but most would be driven crazy by all the ground noise,falsing and other chatter from running so hot in fairly mineralized soils.
As far as picking goodies out of the trash.....The E-Trac in factory coins mode,Trash Density set to high ,fast on deep off ,multi tones and auto +3 with difficult on is a great way to separate the masked coins in heavy trash.Go to smaller coils and it just gets better.
I used my F75s a lot and even with their lightning speed they are not even in the same class as the E-Trac at getting good signals from "trashed in" coins.