earthmansurfer
Active member
Preliminary Note - I understand if you have bad ground mineralization levels you can't do what I am about to say (fog in headlights analogy), but just take this into account as I have played with a few deeper targets and the results are clear. My ground is somewhat iron mineralized. I can run it hot but it does false alot - BUT the falses are easy to distinguish.
I got back to my old 500 year old castle spot, which has mostly stopped producing. The CTX has pulled a few deeper coins from it lately. In two hunts I got 4 coins in 3 hours or so. I had hit this spot with the E-Trac (stock and 13" Detech) and got 2 coins in over 10 hours - both low conductors). So, knowing that it's mostly cleaned out I decided to run in manual 30 and deal with the falsing. The machine recommended 15 - 18 to give you an idea.
Settings:
50 Conductive
Minimal Disc (mostly bottom right corner)
fast off, deep off, ferrous coin
Case 1 - My first keeper target was a zinc Nazi coin at 6". It hit ok on manual 30. I tried it on auto +3, which amounted to 20, and it just thunked. Nothing I would have dug.
Case 2 - I was in the middle of my most productive spot. Lots of iron there. I got a faint inconsistent hit at 8", but a 4 way - no way could I detect this coin any deeper. I have to stress this was what most would call a bad hit but you could tell something was there, was not a false. Interestingly, in ferrous coin the crosshairs was showing the target consistently at 12 33 or so (correct ID). I was able to pinpoint it and it pinpointed small. At exactly 8" I recovered a silver 1824 King Max Josef Silver coin - I was shocked (yes, again!). It wasn't quite flat and so was actually in the side of the hole (and I scraped it retrieving it, though I was careful. Pretty worn as you can see so no biggy.) This coin weighs 2.3 grams, just like a clad dime but it's thinner and maybe 20% wider. I tried the detector in auto, it settled on 25 and nulled on the target. Now, that was interesting. At fringe depths running sensitivity at absolute max does help, even with sensitivity relatively high in auto.
Just for comparisons sake, I got tired quicker from running combine and hearing iron than from running 50 CO and hearing the false or two every swing (they are easy to hear and not that hard). I'm not knocking combine - Actually I'm wondering if Combine hits deeper targets a bit more solid as there is no warble in it and since that upper bin can be set quite high in tone, I've noticed targets stand out a lot. But I didn't check this target in combine.
It appears at near max depths for your soil that that extra little bit of sensitivity really does the trick. Perhaps I could have hit that coin in manual 25 or so, didn't try as time was winding down, but I will in the future.
I'm curious if anyone else has experienced this. I'm not saying to do this all the time, but if you have a hunted out spot, running the machine as hot as you can handle it does produce. Had I not done it, I wouldn't have found two coins in one hour at this small subsection of my hunting area.
I noticed the same above behavior on the E-Trac regarding depth and sensitivity.
Albert
I got back to my old 500 year old castle spot, which has mostly stopped producing. The CTX has pulled a few deeper coins from it lately. In two hunts I got 4 coins in 3 hours or so. I had hit this spot with the E-Trac (stock and 13" Detech) and got 2 coins in over 10 hours - both low conductors). So, knowing that it's mostly cleaned out I decided to run in manual 30 and deal with the falsing. The machine recommended 15 - 18 to give you an idea.
Settings:
50 Conductive
Minimal Disc (mostly bottom right corner)
fast off, deep off, ferrous coin
Case 1 - My first keeper target was a zinc Nazi coin at 6". It hit ok on manual 30. I tried it on auto +3, which amounted to 20, and it just thunked. Nothing I would have dug.
Case 2 - I was in the middle of my most productive spot. Lots of iron there. I got a faint inconsistent hit at 8", but a 4 way - no way could I detect this coin any deeper. I have to stress this was what most would call a bad hit but you could tell something was there, was not a false. Interestingly, in ferrous coin the crosshairs was showing the target consistently at 12 33 or so (correct ID). I was able to pinpoint it and it pinpointed small. At exactly 8" I recovered a silver 1824 King Max Josef Silver coin - I was shocked (yes, again!). It wasn't quite flat and so was actually in the side of the hole (and I scraped it retrieving it, though I was careful. Pretty worn as you can see so no biggy.) This coin weighs 2.3 grams, just like a clad dime but it's thinner and maybe 20% wider. I tried the detector in auto, it settled on 25 and nulled on the target. Now, that was interesting. At fringe depths running sensitivity at absolute max does help, even with sensitivity relatively high in auto.
Just for comparisons sake, I got tired quicker from running combine and hearing iron than from running 50 CO and hearing the false or two every swing (they are easy to hear and not that hard). I'm not knocking combine - Actually I'm wondering if Combine hits deeper targets a bit more solid as there is no warble in it and since that upper bin can be set quite high in tone, I've noticed targets stand out a lot. But I didn't check this target in combine.
It appears at near max depths for your soil that that extra little bit of sensitivity really does the trick. Perhaps I could have hit that coin in manual 25 or so, didn't try as time was winding down, but I will in the future.
I'm curious if anyone else has experienced this. I'm not saying to do this all the time, but if you have a hunted out spot, running the machine as hot as you can handle it does produce. Had I not done it, I wouldn't have found two coins in one hour at this small subsection of my hunting area.
I noticed the same above behavior on the E-Trac regarding depth and sensitivity.
Albert