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Mine Lab Stock headphones???

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migolddigger

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The last couple of days using the Stock headphones for the Explorer II have showed me allot about this machine. If your using the stock headphones, Then Toss them in the trash!!! Yes I said Toss the Koss. The reason I can say this is I have used Black Widows for the last 2 years until I recently broke the cord on mine. That was my fault I yanked the wires loose. I asked a friend of mine Ross if I could borrow his backup pair. Now I thought that the Koss Brand was a good brand of head phones. Maybe if you like the Base sound. Wow was I surprised how bad they were. I have gotten good enough with the Explorer II to tell a silver dime from a wheat penny when I used My black Widows. The silver makes a slightly higher pitch. It's real easy to tell. Put on those Koss head phones, and you can't tell squat. All those deep signals are gone, no matter what gain you use. I run 6 most of the time and I like the deep fluty signals. Not on the Koss, there gone. What I'm trying to say is if your using them now, your in for a big wake up call if you get some new quality head phones. I'm not flexing the black Widows muscle, If you use the Grey ghost, Troy's, or any better quality Headphones you will have a better sound distinction at the upper sound end. You will be able to hear the Deep sounds. My question is a simple one. Why would Mine Lab try to make the machine sound worse by giving such junkie headphones with such a great detector. It's like putting Crappy tires on a sports car. Sure they will work, but performance is lacking. Come on Mine Lab get on the Ball. You want to make you Detector better. Toss the Koss. After I took the head phones off, I started finding coins again. That says it all. In the future I would like to see Mine Lab add better headphones for there Top of the line Detector. I hope they read this.

Tom


PS When I bought my mine lab Explorer II I didn't get headphones with it, so I had no idea how bad the stock ones were.
 
Well migolddigger well said and I have to put in my two cents worth if you don't mind. I bought my EX II used (was the dealers display machine) and was originally an XS, converted at the Factory and upgraded to the EX II, but since used, I just used the in-expensive Headphones I had.

But the reason for the comment, from my two EX II hunting buddies, Savage had the KOSS and Sunzabeach had the Sun-Ray's. Until I also (whoops) stepped on my wires twice in a real bushy area and shorted them out, didn't know what I was lacking. So, Savage let me try the KOSS's, since he won a new set of Sun-Ray's during our clubs annual Silver Hunt, and before that I tested Sunzabeach's Sun-Ray's at one site when he was taking a break. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. Upon connecting the Sun-Ray's and turning around to sweep the coil where I had just been seconds earlier, I pulled up a Quarter, dime and two penny's (one a wheatie). I missed them (was a trashy area) with my headphones, and never thought I could miss that much.

So, since the Black Widow's and the Sun-Ray's are both top-end phones, I see what you are talking about and have already ordered the Sun-Ray phones myself. For the time being, Savage is letting me use the KOSS's, and they are still so much better than my other phones, but the Sun-Rays (since the only high ender's I've tried) are the cat's meow.

Maybe one of the manufacturer's could get with Minelab, and do a nice paring, for if I do upgrade to the SE (may just do so) it seems it would be very foolish (since I have been soooo edgi-me-cated) not to have the high grade phones, and lose half of the machines performance - thus without them - sorry, but the machine is then only performing at about half of it's capabilities.

Keep Wide Eyed and Wide Open.

Krusty:pulltab:
 
I'm useing Jolly Rogers Ultimates...with the limiter switch & like them o.k. I chose them over the black widows & grey ghosts because of the price difference...I don't have any experience with the black widows or grey ghosts..Maybe someone with a little exp. with all of them will jump in here & shed some light...I'd hate to think my headphones would be a cause for missing targets....Yes I can tell the tone difference between a penny & dime too....I haven't tried the stock headphones yet but may do so this weekend just to see if I need to think about replacing the backup...
 
My Shadow X5 can be used with too. They have a switch to toggle back and forth between machines. Plus There light and give good tone on all machines. I've used them for about 3 years with no problems.
 
Hey Tinfoil!

Well - as I was informed (bought it already converted), mainly just the box upgrade and the upper housing was redone to say EX II. It has the original stock White coil versus Savage & Sunzabeach's Black.

There is only a small - but real difference for some signals - and may just because of the coils may be different - and their's are supposively lighter (donna' really know for sure), but most signals match theirs (and mine machine DOES feel heavy in comparison).

Regardless, I got it as it is now and I very am happy with it. Just want & need to find some better sites "and" do some research to find those better locations. In the meantime, still trying to either wear out me or the EX II!

Keep Wide Eyed and Wide Open and have a great one Tinfoil.

Krusty:pulltab:
 
Headphone comfort is needed. Headphones need to be rugged. Fidelity of sound is good enough on most headsets. Volume level will be good if impedance is anywhere near close. Good sets can be found for $29 and up. That said buy good ones from our sponsors. I did. Got one pair for $65 and another pair for $90.
 
This is a great set of Headphones and I liked them so much, I even bought a 2nd Set of them just in case they were discontinued later on down the road. They have replaceable cords and you have the option of 1/8" or 1/4" Jack Type Cords. You recieve 1 replacement Cord of your preferred choice of size incase the Cord shorts out. Timberwolves are also a good brand to buy also. I know they have a high volume output and are very well built. There are also many other great brands like the Sunray's, Killer Bee's, Rat Phones, Black Widow's, and etc. It is just a personal preference at to which pair is what a person buys due to Volume, Construction, Comfort, and of course affordability. But if you want to find the DEEP COINS, you MUST buy a HIGH END set of HEADPHONES or you will be leaving the DEEP ONES for the next Detectorist. Good Luck and HH.
 
n/t
 
I have tried every kind of headphone there is being I am very hard of hearing and even added a amplifier to some just to get the volume I need to hear the signals from the Explorer. Some detector have the volume with most any of the top of the line headphones, but with the Explorer if anyone want the extra volume the Troy Pros have it for me and many others.
With the Timberwolfs I find this is the one that get the best volume and tone separation on my Sovereign, but that is me and my hearing.

Rick
 
The stock Koss work fine for me. They are blowing out my ear drums if I get them over 5. With on hat, I will use a setting of 4 on the volume. With the knit hat I use 5 but my ears are still ringing a little then. I think alot of it depends on how good your hearing is?
The cord is starting to crack where they pulg in. So maybe next year I will get a new set before these go. Until then I like the Koss. And seeing their factory is (still?)on the north side of Milwaukee. I will support the hometown team. Do you think they will send me a new set for the great plug I gave them?

jimb se wi
 
Hey Jim, have you tried some higher Quality Head phones yet? The Base sounds are great on the Koss, so digging Nickles should be great. The sad truth is the loud Blended base signals hurts the high signals you Need to dig for deep silver and copper hit's. It's nice that you support your hometown factory, and for a stereo system, I'd say go for it. The sad truth of the matter is, they stink on a metal detector. They slide off your head unless you use a hat and they don't separate target signals very good especially the high deep ones. Sorry to be so adamant about this, but try a set of Troy pros, Grey Ghost, Black widows. You'll see what were talking about.

Tom
 
Thanks John!
Ratphones are the only full response phones with a plug-in cord. Plus the cord is quite rugged to begin with. I know musicians that use it as a guitar cord when not hunting :)
 
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