Aarong81, ckecked out the ground just like you said and came up with an GND=65, VDI 74 .Is this what you would call high.also while checking the ground i got a good zip soung so i fliped to C&j with the tone on i got a vdi 77 1cent -10 cents about 5 inches i pulled up two wheat pennies 1924 1942. funny how things work.also the ground was wet from a big rain .I think that you may have hit the nail on the head and maybe i wasnt GB right.Anyway thanks for your help ill let you know how things go im going out monday to hunt all day so will see what happens. Oh and i was using the 950 when i did your test.thanks agan .Dalton