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My 100% UNBIASED opinion of the E-Trac after field testing it.
- Thread starter Hotcz70
- Start date
Some folks want it BLACK or WHITE. The world is often GRAY. Fair review......take-home message is that it's a machine that will get 'er done.....some things you like, some you don't. I feel the same way about my F75, which got me the deepest Barber dime I've ever dug (9"), but sometimes I wanna wrap that thing around a tree. Like any other relationship.
I got at least 10 different coils....the SE...the EX2 I bought from Guvner a couple of months ago...and access to Darrell's E-trac whenever I want.
I'm thinkin' it might be a fun detecting year...starting in just a couple of months.
These last few weeks I've had with "Heavy D's" E-Trac.....they were a bonus few silver to start the year. Who the heck would have thought I'd be getting to hunt mid January thru the first part of February.
I'm thinkin' it might be a fun detecting year...starting in just a couple of months.
These last few weeks I've had with "Heavy D's" E-Trac.....they were a bonus few silver to start the year. Who the heck would have thought I'd be getting to hunt mid January thru the first part of February.
deeponedge
New member
ur sure stirring up some good stuff with my detector bud...lol.
ur good with any macine in your hands. I know the etrac is a good unit but I cant put in the time right now...so have fun with it.
The report you posted is a good one and an honest one and even Ol' Heavy D as you call me can understand it.
Later bud. I'll call you in a few days....Darrell
ur good with any macine in your hands. I know the etrac is a good unit but I cant put in the time right now...so have fun with it.
The report you posted is a good one and an honest one and even Ol' Heavy D as you call me can understand it.
Later bud. I'll call you in a few days....Darrell
I hear from you above that the Explorer SE is better in IRON than the E-Trac? What does this mean, a silver coin that is within the same field(of the coil at the same time) as a piece of IRON is still detected and not masked OR the Explorer SE just plainly handles larger size IRON better without falsing or showing it as a good target OR not?? Also this below is a repost of interest:
Minelab X-Terra Forum
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,1142294,1142307#msg-1142307
Re: New member. Opinions needed!!!!
Posted by: Digger
Date: February 03, 2010 07:40PM Moderator
Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 2,351
"Welcome to the X-Terra forum Jarrod. First of all, let me tell you how smart your uncle, dad and buddy are! Secondly, no doubt I'd get the new 705. Not that you'll need it, but the 705 comes with a 3 year warranty. Since Minelab does not transfer warranties, the used Explorer will not have a guarantee. I've owned several Explorers, and currently have a few X-Terras, an Advantage and a White's XLPro and an Etrac. If I were forced to hunt with an FBS detector, it would definitely be the Etrac, not the Explorer. In my opinion, the Etrac is much better balanced, has a much quicker response and is more 'user friendly" than the Explorers. But I had my choice of anything on the market today, I'd still take the 705. I hunt for old coins at old sites. A great majority of the spots I hunt were also old farmsites. I will hit the parks and yards when the crops are too tall to manuver. But primarily it is old farmsites. I have owned about every detector known to mankind, some of them multiple times, and would put my X-Terra 705 up against any of them. I won't go into all the details of why it is such an excellent detector.......just ask your dad or your buddy why they bought theirs! Then take some time to read through the posts on this forum, paying particular attention to the FAQFAQ section. Regardless of which detector you buy, learn to use it properly and know that there are still old coins just waiting for a serious X-Terra user to come along! Equipped with the proper coil and adjusted to the correct settings, it is hard to beat. JMHO HH Randy"
Minelab X-Terra Forum
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,1142294,1142307#msg-1142307
Re: New member. Opinions needed!!!!
Posted by: Digger
Date: February 03, 2010 07:40PM Moderator
Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 2,351
"Welcome to the X-Terra forum Jarrod. First of all, let me tell you how smart your uncle, dad and buddy are! Secondly, no doubt I'd get the new 705. Not that you'll need it, but the 705 comes with a 3 year warranty. Since Minelab does not transfer warranties, the used Explorer will not have a guarantee. I've owned several Explorers, and currently have a few X-Terras, an Advantage and a White's XLPro and an Etrac. If I were forced to hunt with an FBS detector, it would definitely be the Etrac, not the Explorer. In my opinion, the Etrac is much better balanced, has a much quicker response and is more 'user friendly" than the Explorers. But I had my choice of anything on the market today, I'd still take the 705. I hunt for old coins at old sites. A great majority of the spots I hunt were also old farmsites. I will hit the parks and yards when the crops are too tall to manuver. But primarily it is old farmsites. I have owned about every detector known to mankind, some of them multiple times, and would put my X-Terra 705 up against any of them. I won't go into all the details of why it is such an excellent detector.......just ask your dad or your buddy why they bought theirs! Then take some time to read through the posts on this forum, paying particular attention to the FAQFAQ section. Regardless of which detector you buy, learn to use it properly and know that there are still old coins just waiting for a serious X-Terra user to come along! Equipped with the proper coil and adjusted to the correct settings, it is hard to beat. JMHO HH Randy"
"I hear from you above that the Explorer SE is better in IRON than the E-Trac? What does this mean, a silver coin that is within the same field(of the coil at the same time) as a piece of IRON is still detected and not masked OR the Explorer SE just plainly handles larger size IRON better without falsing or showing it as a good target OR not??"
I am confused here. Where exactly in my original post above does it say I think the SE is better in iron than thje ETrac?? I sure don't see it...and I never said it as I recall??
As a matter of fact...I stated the OPPOSITE...I stated the following..."The E-Trac DID hit deep coins for me through a dead null just as the SE does"
Also this thread was something I did on my own as a field test and my final thoughts on the E-trac because I'm an explorer user.
Your post on the Xterra has nothing to do with my personal results of the 50 hours of testing I did....and IMHO shouldn't have been inserted into a thread I started.
If you want to see opinions of how the SE does in iron...I have many posts on the Explorer forum.
I honestly don't have the time to explain again how the SE does for me in iron.It wouldn't be relevant to your question anyway because these are just my results... in my soil...at my sites..running my settings.
I am confused here. Where exactly in my original post above does it say I think the SE is better in iron than thje ETrac?? I sure don't see it...and I never said it as I recall??
As a matter of fact...I stated the OPPOSITE...I stated the following..."The E-Trac DID hit deep coins for me through a dead null just as the SE does"
Also this thread was something I did on my own as a field test and my final thoughts on the E-trac because I'm an explorer user.
Your post on the Xterra has nothing to do with my personal results of the 50 hours of testing I did....and IMHO shouldn't have been inserted into a thread I started.
If you want to see opinions of how the SE does in iron...I have many posts on the Explorer forum.
I honestly don't have the time to explain again how the SE does for me in iron.It wouldn't be relevant to your question anyway because these are just my results... in my soil...at my sites..running my settings.
Thanks for the great review Bryce. You stated your opinion clear and concise. It was a very good read.
I have a lot of hours on my XS and SE pro but not many on the E-Trac to make a great comparison yet. BUT, I have found a couple coins so far in areas I have covered many times with my other detectors that gave a clear, solid read with the E-trac that I can't see how I missed them before.
This has me excited about the E-trac's abilities so far. I still have not got down to any tweaking with the settings yet as i want to learn how the stock setting work first.
Keep up the great reviews, you are appreciated here.
I have a lot of hours on my XS and SE pro but not many on the E-Trac to make a great comparison yet. BUT, I have found a couple coins so far in areas I have covered many times with my other detectors that gave a clear, solid read with the E-trac that I can't see how I missed them before.
This has me excited about the E-trac's abilities so far. I still have not got down to any tweaking with the settings yet as i want to learn how the stock setting work first.
Keep up the great reviews, you are appreciated here.
"I hear from you above that the Explorer SE is better in IRON than the E-Trac? What does this mean, a silver coin that is within the same field(of the coil at the same time) as a piece of IRON is still detected and not masked OR the Explorer SE just plainly handles larger size IRON better without falsing or showing it as a good target OR not??"
I am confused here. Where exactly in my original post above does it say I think the SE is better in iron than thje ETrac?? I sure don't see it...and I never said it as I recall??
Right here Bryce, at the bottom of this page: http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,1143086,page=1
John....let me explain...
Posted by: Bryce-IL
Date: February 05, 2010 11:07AM Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 4,301
First...thanks for the kind words.
I have no intention of switching...but I have FULL intention of using both machines.
I prefer the SE in iron believe it or not...and could not hit some coins in the iron with the E-Trac that I could with the SE. Before you ask...yes I did compare signals with both machines.
Now it could be because I know the SE better...and my personal settings help me with the SE. Not sure...but regardless...it is what it is for me and I know the results I got.
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As a matter of fact...I stated the OPPOSITE...I stated the following..."The E-Trac DID hit deep coins for me through a dead null just as the SE does"
Also this thread was something I did on my own as a field test and my final thoughts on the E-trac because I'm an explorer user.
Your post on the Xterra has nothing to do with my personal results of the 50 hours of testing I did....and IMHO shouldn't have been inserted into a thread I started.
If you want to see opinions of how the SE does in iron...I have many posts on the Explorer forum.
I honestly don't have the time to explain again how the SE does for me in iron.It wouldn't be relevant to your question anyway because these are just my results... in my soil...at my sites..running my settings.
Ok I undersand Bryce.
Also from Dan(gibsondan) directly above on this page here about his E-Trac in IRON along with a dime, and he wants to get an Explorer also(Is Dan saying the Explorer is better than the E-Trac when IRON and a coin are in the same hole together??):
Re: My 100% UNBIASED opinion of the E-Trac after field testing it.
Posted by: gibsondan
Date: February 05, 2010 06:29PM
"The signal on the second Merc was super iffy. It was nulling most of the time with just a few high toned peeps every now and then. I switched to the all-metal quickmask mode and the ferrous & conductivity numbers were all over the place. For example, the ferrous numbers varied between 9 and 35. The conductivity numbers bounced all around between 40 to 48. I switched back to the discrimination mode and got a lot of nulling with occasional high pitched peeps. The numbers on those peeps were all over the place. I swung the coil 39 times from two directions. The threshold nulled on all but a few swings where I got either a high pitched peep or a whisper of a peep. The signal sounded so iffy that I walked away from it. But something told me to go back and dig. It was those high pitched peeps whispering through the nulls. After I flipped the plug back and checked the hole with my probe, it sounded very nice. It turned out to be a 1926 Merc about 6 inches deep. The fact that it sounded so good after flipping the plug back tells me now there was an iron target in the plug over the dime. Judging by the numbers in quickmask, I believed the target was iron. The nulling in the discrimination mode also made me think the same. So I walked away. However the high pitched sound of those peeps breaking through the nulls convinced me to go back and dig. I'm glad I didn't go by the numbers on that one.
Eventually I'm going to get an Explorer for the same reason you use an E-trac. How can one go wrong with both of those weapons in the arsenal?"
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I am confused here. Where exactly in my original post above does it say I think the SE is better in iron than thje ETrac?? I sure don't see it...and I never said it as I recall??
Right here Bryce, at the bottom of this page: http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,1143086,page=1
John....let me explain...
Posted by: Bryce-IL
Date: February 05, 2010 11:07AM Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 4,301
First...thanks for the kind words.
I have no intention of switching...but I have FULL intention of using both machines.
I prefer the SE in iron believe it or not...and could not hit some coins in the iron with the E-Trac that I could with the SE. Before you ask...yes I did compare signals with both machines.
Now it could be because I know the SE better...and my personal settings help me with the SE. Not sure...but regardless...it is what it is for me and I know the results I got.
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As a matter of fact...I stated the OPPOSITE...I stated the following..."The E-Trac DID hit deep coins for me through a dead null just as the SE does"
Also this thread was something I did on my own as a field test and my final thoughts on the E-trac because I'm an explorer user.
Your post on the Xterra has nothing to do with my personal results of the 50 hours of testing I did....and IMHO shouldn't have been inserted into a thread I started.
If you want to see opinions of how the SE does in iron...I have many posts on the Explorer forum.
I honestly don't have the time to explain again how the SE does for me in iron.It wouldn't be relevant to your question anyway because these are just my results... in my soil...at my sites..running my settings.
Ok I undersand Bryce.
Also from Dan(gibsondan) directly above on this page here about his E-Trac in IRON along with a dime, and he wants to get an Explorer also(Is Dan saying the Explorer is better than the E-Trac when IRON and a coin are in the same hole together??):
Re: My 100% UNBIASED opinion of the E-Trac after field testing it.
Posted by: gibsondan
Date: February 05, 2010 06:29PM
"The signal on the second Merc was super iffy. It was nulling most of the time with just a few high toned peeps every now and then. I switched to the all-metal quickmask mode and the ferrous & conductivity numbers were all over the place. For example, the ferrous numbers varied between 9 and 35. The conductivity numbers bounced all around between 40 to 48. I switched back to the discrimination mode and got a lot of nulling with occasional high pitched peeps. The numbers on those peeps were all over the place. I swung the coil 39 times from two directions. The threshold nulled on all but a few swings where I got either a high pitched peep or a whisper of a peep. The signal sounded so iffy that I walked away from it. But something told me to go back and dig. It was those high pitched peeps whispering through the nulls. After I flipped the plug back and checked the hole with my probe, it sounded very nice. It turned out to be a 1926 Merc about 6 inches deep. The fact that it sounded so good after flipping the plug back tells me now there was an iron target in the plug over the dime. Judging by the numbers in quickmask, I believed the target was iron. The nulling in the discrimination mode also made me think the same. So I walked away. However the high pitched sound of those peeps breaking through the nulls convinced me to go back and dig. I'm glad I didn't go by the numbers on that one.
Eventually I'm going to get an Explorer for the same reason you use an E-trac. How can one go wrong with both of those weapons in the arsenal?"
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Ray-Mo. said:
No, that post that you are referring to is relevant to E-Trac vs Explorer:
"I've owned several Explorers, and currently have a few X-Terras, an Advantage and a White's XLPro and an Etrac. If I were forced to hunt with an FBS detector, it would definitely be the Etrac, not the Explorer. In my opinion, the Etrac is much better balanced, has a much quicker response and is more 'user friendly" than the Explorers. But I had my choice of anything on the market today, I'd still take the 705."
Enough already!!!
,YO... as a user of an X 70, 705, EXII and now an ETRAC, Imust say Bryce has given his HONEST opinion on hid FINDINGS!!!! Get your own findings and compare them yourself.... FOR REAL don't get one detector and get offended on it's limitations, ALL DETECTORS, WHITES,FISHER,GARRETT,MINELAB,TECHNETICS ETC. are limited to the users time, brainpower and willingness to learn the machine.....I have learned a lot from this forum by LISTENING!!!..Read Andy's book!! I will stop before I get negative!
,YO... as a user of an X 70, 705, EXII and now an ETRAC, Imust say Bryce has given his HONEST opinion on hid FINDINGS!!!! Get your own findings and compare them yourself.... FOR REAL don't get one detector and get offended on it's limitations, ALL DETECTORS, WHITES,FISHER,GARRETT,MINELAB,TECHNETICS ETC. are limited to the users time, brainpower and willingness to learn the machine.....I have learned a lot from this forum by LISTENING!!!..Read Andy's book!! I will stop before I get negative!
. I asked you to to stop inserting this stuff into MY thread earlier...and here it is again.. It has nothing to do with the hard work and time I put in...and I don't appreciate what you're doing here.
What you did here again needs to stop....quoting something from me....which WAS NOT EVEN IN THE ORIGINAL POST because I felt it was NOT relevant.
You quoted the following from me from a response....NOT the post...."I have no intention of switching...but I have FULL intention of using both machines.
I prefer the SE in iron believe it or not...and could not hit some coins in the iron with the E-Trac that I could with the SE. Before you ask...yes I did compare signals with both machines.
Now it could be because I know the SE better...and my personal settings help me with the SE. Not sure...but regardless...it is what it is for me and I know the results I got."
What you quoted me on was NOT IN MY FIELD TEST POST..IT WAS A RESPONSE I GAVE TO SOMEONE
WHY DID I STATE THAT TO SOMEONE?????
.ANSWER...QUITE SIMPLE....I HAVE 1000's OF HOURS ON THE EXPLORERS...and ONLY 50 on the E-Trac!!!!
OF COURSE I WILL HIT SOME COINS IN IRON WITH MY SE THAT I DIDN'T WITH THE E-TRAC??
MORE IMPORTANTLY...I ALSO FOUND PLENTY WITH THE E-TRAC THAT I MISSED WITH MY SE...WHICH IS WHAT IMPRESSED ME ABOUT THE E-TRAC
FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOME COINS IN IRON WITH THE E-TRAC THAT I MISSED WITH THE SE SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE E-TRAC....ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIMITED TIME I HAVE HAD ON IT.
Again David...I'm asking respectfully..and sincerely...PLEASE STOP POSTING TO THIS THREAD...because it is MY THREAD and what you are posting has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL POST. Please do not respond to this...or respond to anything else on this entire thread. No hard feelings here...and I want it to stay that way.
What you did here again needs to stop....quoting something from me....which WAS NOT EVEN IN THE ORIGINAL POST because I felt it was NOT relevant.
You quoted the following from me from a response....NOT the post...."I have no intention of switching...but I have FULL intention of using both machines.
I prefer the SE in iron believe it or not...and could not hit some coins in the iron with the E-Trac that I could with the SE. Before you ask...yes I did compare signals with both machines.
Now it could be because I know the SE better...and my personal settings help me with the SE. Not sure...but regardless...it is what it is for me and I know the results I got."
What you quoted me on was NOT IN MY FIELD TEST POST..IT WAS A RESPONSE I GAVE TO SOMEONE
WHY DID I STATE THAT TO SOMEONE?????
.ANSWER...QUITE SIMPLE....I HAVE 1000's OF HOURS ON THE EXPLORERS...and ONLY 50 on the E-Trac!!!!
OF COURSE I WILL HIT SOME COINS IN IRON WITH MY SE THAT I DIDN'T WITH THE E-TRAC??
MORE IMPORTANTLY...I ALSO FOUND PLENTY WITH THE E-TRAC THAT I MISSED WITH MY SE...WHICH IS WHAT IMPRESSED ME ABOUT THE E-TRAC
FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOME COINS IN IRON WITH THE E-TRAC THAT I MISSED WITH THE SE SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE E-TRAC....ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIMITED TIME I HAVE HAD ON IT.
Again David...I'm asking respectfully..and sincerely...PLEASE STOP POSTING TO THIS THREAD...because it is MY THREAD and what you are posting has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL POST. Please do not respond to this...or respond to anything else on this entire thread. No hard feelings here...and I want it to stay that way.
Thanks for sharing your views Bryce!