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[silverman55]

I hate to sound so dumb but can comeone tell me what ttf stands for

 

[badjim]

two tone ferrous

 

[AJ in PA]

By all means, get to know two tone ferrous on your E-Trac. Once you learn TTF you'll be finding coins that
everyone else has walked by-trust me on this one

 

[Goes4ever]

I hate to sound so dumb but can comeone tell me what ttf stands for

You dont sound dumb.....remember the only dumb question is the one you dont ask. We are here to help....ask away!

On the etrac when using conductive tones, and your screen is open, such as in quickmask, iron will be a high tone just like silver.

When you use ferrous tones, iron gives a grunt. So if you choose ferrous tones and use two tones, iron gives a grunt, and everything conductive gives a high tone. This makes it VERY easy to pick out conductive targets from an iron infested site.

 

[Mason Jarr]

It's a setup that's beneficial in locations with lots of iron/trash. You set it up on the Audio Menu through the Tone ID tab. No. of Tones would be "Two" obviously, and the Sounds is set to "Ferrous". You'll need to make some other changes as well to open up your search pattern. Go to Goes4Ever's website and he has the specifics on how to set it up starting with the Minelab Relic pattern. By using just the two tones and having the sounds set to Ferrous, any target above the FE 17 line (where most of the good stuff lives) will produce a high pitch; those lower than 17 make a lower grunt. It can allow you to hear targets that might be lost through nulling if you were running a different pattern where you had large amounts of discrimination, such as a typical coin pattern. With the discrimination in a typical pattern if you moved your coil over a piece of iron that also had a good target next to it, you likely would not hear the good target because the discrimination would cause the machine to null (go silent) on the iron until it recovers after a brief period. In that brief period of silence though, you might have moved your coil several more inches and missed targets that were close to the iron that caused the null. By using TTF and opening up your pattern to accept most everything (again see Goes4ever's website for the setup instructions), and slowing down your swing, that same piece of iron that caused the null in the first example above will now make a low pitch grunt, but not cause a null. Now you might also hear the good target because your machine does not have to recover from the null. Probably more than you wanted to know, but I think you wanted more that just what the letters stand for.

 

[bisctboy]

Wow...nice explanation Mason Jarr. As a new etrac's owner I appreciate your explanation.

 

[Mason Jarr]

You're welcome. I'm a new user also, but I read a lot and I try to read stuff from those who are successful. From what I've read, I think Goes4ever is probably one of, if not the most, experienced with this setup. Hopefully, if I've gotten something wrong someone will post a correction, but from what I've read and had explained to me, my post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.

I think if you visit his website and read pages 64-66 of the E-trac Owner's Manual, you'll get a good understanding of it.

 

[GroundScanner]

Thanks im learning also , what is G4E address ?

 

[Mason Jarr]

I'll PM it to you because I'm not sure if I should post links to other sites, even though he is a moderator here.

 

[fishnnut]

How well does the TTF work in a high trash old park where a lot of the metal is aluminum and steel rusted cans/tops/tabs etc? In this situation is a person better off just using a high discrimination coin pattern?

 

[GroundScanner]

Got it , thanks.

 

[Mason Jarr]

How well does the TTF work in a high trash old park where a lot of the metal is aluminum and steel rusted cans/tops/tabs etc? In this situation is a person better off just using a high discrimination coin pattern?

I've set it up as a pattern/mode on my machine and used it a few times, but I'm no expert on it. Since I'm a new user I've been sticking to fairly clean areas while learning. I did go to one of the oldest parks in my town that's been around since the early 1900s. It has a lot of trash, both old and new. I tried every pattern I had in my machine and it's just too advanced for my level of experience. I'll go back to it when I have some more hours on the ET. I did notice when I used TTF the high pitch tones of the many aluminum pull tabs made it ineffective (for someone of my experience). I'm sure an advanced user could get in there and find some good targets using TTF though. Set it up (because there will be times when you'll want to try it), save it as a pattern and see if it'll work for you.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

2TF is like having a secret weapon - this program really makes the good targets stand out when your hunting in area that's loaded with junk metal !