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New video on Test garden

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chicagoron

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No targets at the beach and too hot to hit the park so I put together a video on making a test garden to help with deep target ID and recovery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9UGdgcXVOY

Chicago Ron
 
Wow,Thanks for the video,Much enjoyed.
I for one appreciate you taking the time and caring to do that.
I agree,The idea is to experiment and learn.
I,For one, like to find a coin in the area i am hunting,and then play with it for a while before i dig it.
Try a few different settings,just to see what the detector does,and the response you get.
I feel this can make a difference,being we are constantly encountering different soil types,with different mineralization.
Usually,i can find something that will make the coin respond better. Once i get the better response,I usually feel i am set
for this particular area,and then focus on the Target Sounds.
I do not claim to be an expert,simply stating what i have tried and how it works best for me.

Again,
Thanks Ron for a well made video.

LabradorBob
 
Thanks Ron for the video. I was always under the impression that a coin in a test garden must be in the ground for a while to give you an accurate rendition of what it may be like out in another setting. Did you vary your expert settings to see if that affected your results? ie. deep on deep off, fast on, fast off etc?
 
WOW
Thank You for your efforts and the quality of your video
It was certainly eye opening
I certainly did not expect the sounds you got let alone the numbers for the coins
 
Great video.

Your soil must be really bad? My auto runs around 21 to 22.
 
ive been swinging an etrac for about 9 weeks. that video is the most helpful and informative peice of information ive seen. "the problem is catching it on the first sweep"....i think its going to take me a while to figure what is a deep coin and what isnt. the coin numbers being generally non-ferrous, and varied but higher tones. i have not been digging anything like what youve shown in your video. i assumed that any coin would read more stable than that. seems like that is why i have only been digging shallow coins, because they read so stable. the other day i dug a merc at 4"-5" or so but i thought it was iffy....it made a good sound but the numbers were jumpy....it wasnt super-iffy....i just couldnt understand why the numbers would be jumpy.

i have a test garden that i made when i bought my etrac. a few days ago i noticed the numbers were really (REALLY) jumpy now that the ground has dried out. very frustrating. i wasnt sure if there was something wrong with my coil. i have 8 coins from 3" to 5.5", that is pure dirt depth, plus 1" of grass. So thats 4" to 6.5" deep. the only coins that give me trouble are a merc at 5.5 and a wheat at 5, very jumpy numbers....all the other coins i dont have a problem with. the soil in my yard is iron-dirty though, too.

i understand that you go based more on sound but if the sound is good and the screen is opened up then the (jumpy) numbers are almost useless. if im getting a good sound but reading 31-47 then ill be digging up nails. if the screen is opened up you need some kind of reliable visual information.

i was expecting more stability but your video shows that this is normal, that is why your video is so helpful to me.

i have a lot to learn i guess!!!!

thanks again for the time it took to make that video.....i really appreciate it! thank you for your work.

look at the stable numbers you are getting on the 6" dime.......at 7:06....i wouldnt have even thought to dig that. a 1-35? very eye opening!

and another thing...i think ive edited this post 5 times already....but a lot of people black out the 1 line! leaving a little area open for silver dollars. that 1-35 reading on the silver dime would be disc'ed out.
 
Went out to my test garden( put in last spring) with 6x8 sef With sensitivity turned up to 28,manual ,multi,conductive,Andy's pattern,deep on,fast off,ground wet,fairly heavy dew on the grass, it is all the machine can do to get a couple of inconsistent beeps from a 7" quarter.With sensitivity run that high in other areas not in garden but 6-8 ft away there is so much falseing there is no possible way one could find anything. Drop the sensitivity down to 25 to half way stop the falseing and good bye to anything deeper than 4"-5". Took off the skid plate and dried all the water off the coil and cover and it made no difference.
Machine was sent in this winter to have a check-up and they replaced the pc board.
have been hunting in ttf in extremely trashy area. Could the processor be fried? Shallow coins it is happy to find.
Any thoughts?
 
I am a bit too lazy to set up a real test garden so I came up with an option. I have posted a diagram of my
 
Only problem is that you are introducing an air pocket with that tube. My tests show these Minelab EX and ETrac machines do not like air - it does affect the signal. May be why Ron's video shows more erratics in the readings than one would normally find on a dime especially at 6 inches. You have to pack that ground solid.

I prefer to dig the hole to depth, then stick the coin into the undug ground in the SIDE of the hole at the measured depth. I believe the signals are more true.
 
Thanks for all the great comments. I know the minlab machines don't like air and I did pack the holes well and tamp them with my foot. I will do a follow up in 1 month to see how the signals improve. There is a lot of iron debris in my soil.
Hunting in parks here in Chicago there is lots of iron, I usually only dig targets deeper than 5". First indication is sound, then depth. I only use the numbers as a guide bouncy doesn't bother me. If it repeats even slightly more than 1 way I dig.. I do dig alot of bent nails but my oldies numbers justify it in my mind.
The trick with iron is as you go around the target the center will move. A coin stays in the same spot.

Good Hunting!
Chicago Ron
 
I made a test garden a couple yrs ago and they are at a measured 7.5" plus the grass, after 2 yrs and lots of rain, the signals are getting better. Not nearly as jumpy. I can hit them easy on auto +3 sensitivity. In fact I run auto +3 almost all the time while hunting old farms because manual makes it go nuts around all the iron. I dug a 8" deep seated dime saturday that was a lil jumpy but nothing like you showed in your video. But it was in the ground for 100 yrs too.
 
chicagoron said:
No targets at the beach and too hot to hit the park so I put together a video on making a test garden to help with deep target ID and recovery.
Chicago Ron
Click to expand...

SWEET VIDEO! Thanks Chicago Ron. :thumbup:
I checked out a few others you had posted on You-tube. Lots of fun watching them.

Question:
The VID for trash also bounces, it sometimes displays similar numbers to what we see at the 9" coin depth in your Test Garden vid. I have verified this a few dozen times by digging these targets and finding a piece of foil, or some bits of chewed metals bits. A lot of times tiny fragements of metal will also give a deep target indication as they are smaller than a coin. So how to tell if you have a deep coin vs a trash target when the TID bounces?
 
Hey Ron - nice to see you here.......

If you get a chance - would love to see how your test garden sounds off in 2 tone FE on those different depth coins in both auto and manual sensitivity.

Thanks for taking the time to do this recording.

Barry
 
Thanks Ron; good information there. Now I can go over areas I have hunted and find the coins I missed!!
 
Thanks for posting this. It really made me think about the two times I did find deep silver quarters; the vid was jumping all over as it was in your video. It was simply on a lark that I chose to dig those. Perhaps that is why I have only found three silver coins so far.
Time for me to plant some coins in the yard and reevaluate what a "good" signal is.
 
Ron, thank you for this vid, I have dug lots of clad and only three silvers thus far. I have passed over several 1-30s plus not thinking they could be silver. My clad count is over sixty dollars and I have found five rings one gold. I have a feeling my silver count is about to go up significantly-Thank you!!! I typically hunt in coins mode while in the parks in auto plus three, my deepest coin thus far is about nine inches on a clad dime. I noticed as the soil dries so does my depth and stability with the numbers. I just pulled my first silver quarter down about four inches and the numbers where jumpy and iffy. Any further suggestions/tips would be appreciated
 
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