OK, i'm getting discouraged with this SE...

[jbow]

I've been using it everyday and I cannot get it to stop falsing. Most all targets have a weird audio, multiple tones, like an arpeggio, not a single tone. I use my F75 and I find goodies, I switch to the SE and I find nothing.

I've tried running in iron mask with different levels; tried ferrous and couductive; tried hunting in smartfind coins preset; I usually have to run the sens below 20, I run it on 18 and it still falses; I run in deep; variability 10...

I am having a hard time believing that this was a well spent K...

BTW, I know how to swing slow, my first detector was a SovereignGT, which I still have. Maybe i'll try it where I was trying the SE today and see how it compares. Does your Explorer beep a tune on good targets?

J

 

[Rick(ND)]

Hi again,


The Explorer are tough for some and easy for others, myself I find the GT is the most accurate ID, but others will feel the Explorers are. It takes a while to get used to this detector and to begin with run in the factory preset and go to not worked out area, but area where there is a lot of new coins if nothing else so you can see what coins do sound like. I have to go even slower with the Explorer than the Sovereigns as for me to hear and register what I hear as the tones are so quick and back to threshold on the deep ones.This is why I like the pitch hold on the SE as I know when I go over a weaker target as the tone of the threshold will change almost like the Sovereign. Some is just a slight squeak and you have to work the target to make it good. There is no doubt talking to others you will dig more trash over some detectors and for me the F-75 is the one I dig more trash with than any detector.The F-75 does give a better signals you can hear over the SE, but I feel the ID on the SE is much better on the SE, but that is the audio which is what you go by first then the visual.
Like I say get used to the SE and what it is telling you before trying some of the tough spots as it will help you a lot.

Rick

 

[jbow]

I'll give a try with pitch hold. I had been running in normal, then yesterday I s did not swing the coil over anywitched to long but I think my main problem yesterday was that I just didn't swing the coil over many targets and the ones I did swing over I did not recognize as a target. I cannot get used to the multi-tone response. I do not understand that. Does yours do that? I am talking about a response of maybe 5 or 6 tones running from mid to higher like maybe you ran your finger up a piano keyboard a few notes... What is that? I dug one of those yesterday and it was a modern bullet.

I will keep at it. I could not live with myself if I gave up, that I will not do! I will learn it. With your help and I really appreciate it. I was happy to see that I got a couple of responses this morning. I hope for some more!

Thanks Rick, you have always been helpful to me.

Julien

 

[Doctorcoinz]

Most users of the explorers probably thought just the same as you when they first started using the detector . all three models (xs .2 .and se ) are superb at sniffing out coins and rings on virtually any strip of land anywhere. You can with practice switch these detectors on and find coins in places where you thought there was nothing in the ground!. I have done some really extensive testing of the explorer 2 and SE on extremely hard worked out sites and still the SE AND EXPLORER 2 will find stuff- amazing detectors and in the hands of some experts cannot be beaten by any detector ever made.

 

[jbow]

I think i'll get my butt up out of the chair and go to twon for a bit. I took it out to a soccer field earlier for about 45 minutes and hunted in "auto 15" and found 1.20 in change. What really fool's me are square pulltabs BUT.. I took the handfull I found and laid them out beside two nickels and in "digital" the second number is always 7 on the square tab and 6 on the nickel... HAH! I'll try that for a while to see if it help's me ID them.

J

 

[mattockman]

I have had nickels hit at 4,5,or 6....mostly 5.....the older buffalos and V's that are cruddy have hit 4 before...but the 5's can also be( and are many at a fair ground or beach) a beaver tail...which is half the pull tab which looks like a beaver tail....(xs Model)...this will drive you nuts..this is what made me think the sorry ### nickel is not even worth it....there are not too many keys dates for nickels and all most every one is badly worn anyways...nickels do not hold up well in the ground. So pick and choose your targets...but you never know......It just maybe gold!!!!!! so you never know for sure.....till you dig it.

 

[Steve(MS)]

You can place a dug nickel in one of your shoes and compare signals you get, I am not sure how that will work with ferrous sounds but with conduct sounds with audio 1, I can tell pulltabs from nickels. The nickel tone tapers off to a slightly lower tone toward the end of the signal while tabs usually increase. Mattockman, you are right about the beaver tails, also some people like to break the tab in half, finally there are a few older tabs that sound exactly the same as a nickel... these are close to impossible to tell from a nickel. Remember to dig those deep broken tones where the cursor bounces across the screen horizontally and barely registers on the depth meter, I have dug some deep v-nickels that way, I have almost given up because they were so deep.

 

[Charles (Upstate NY)]

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[mattockman]

So What you are saying Charles is Minelab is selling a $1400 detector with a useless coil and one has to turn around and buy a diff. coil just to be useful....man that really bites.....I wasn't very happy with the XS stock coil.....it got radical after being baptised in the water....OH! but it says its waterproof!....the slimline is lighter...but has a better use as a frisbee...NICE!.....That should be an option to the buyer...want the lighter slimline or the better EX II coil which is functional...See what ya did....Now I am all upset and I don't even own one.............I need a beer.....

 

[jbow]

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[Charles (Upstate NY)]

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[Charles (Upstate NY)]

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[jbow]

Being a new Ex user I have no point of reference so I cannot tell them that it does not work as well.

Julien

 

[digitrich]

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[BlackX]

[quote Rick(ND)] have to go even slower with the Explorer than the Sovereigns as for me to hear and register what I hear as the tones are so quick and back to threshold on the deep ones.This is why I like the pitch hold on the SE as I know when I go over a weaker target as the tone of the threshold will change almost like the Sovereign.[/quote]

Rick, how similar is the Pitch Hold on the SE to the Sov?

 

[Rick(ND)]

The pitch hold will keep the tone of the last target it sees like the Sovereign does. This comes in handy for me as when the threshold tone changes i know it has seen a different target. The older Explorers didn't have this and many times it was so easy to not hear a good target deeper if your hearing was a little bad as it would give a slight signal then back to the reg threshold and unless you listen close you would miss it. With the pitch hold it give you a better chance of hearing a good target i feel. It is not as well as the Sovereign, but enough to let me know it seen a different target.