racer almost slipped into a coma:blink:

[foxhunter]

So all this talk about overload issues...The first time I read about this was month ago when someone on another forum had just got one and had it outside in very cold weather..Then i seen another post where I think someone left it in there car and the next morning it was in the low 30;s..taking it out he experienced overload...Now it's still cold here in Mi and my last experience with my overload issue was a cold morning..After 20 minutes of hunting it went into overload as I was just walking around to the front of the house..So this would be in an air overload...So last night I decided to do a test on mine..In the house I turned it on..worked normal other than some emi talking a bit..So I took the coil off and put it in the freezer for 3 or 4 minutes..Put it back on and wammo!! it was stuck in overload..I had to turn it off and on 3 times before it quit..So obviously this coil is going to have issues with expanding and contracting in different temps.......So anyone that has had issues think about your temperatures that you were hunting in...I had talked with someone else that tried this and they had similar results..I like the racer but this is useless to me as I hunt in 20-95 degree weather.....I hope Makro is aware of these issues...And can work this out..

 

[squirrel1]

Was your coil cover installed????

 

[Keith Southern]

Do you have a small coil or 5x10 to do same test with???

Not sure why they abandoned the EXCELLENT epoxy filled CoRe coil for the tunable 7x11 foam insert coil??


Keith

 

[HaroldILL.]

Looks like you could call the Racer A fair weather machine. LOL!

 

[SavingThePast]

just when I was about to take the plunge I have to go and see this....

 

[foxhunter]

I don't have any other coils to compare..just the stocker..... .And I will try this with the coil cover on...

 

[jtalley007]

It's sounding like the same type issue White's had with the V3i and Nautilus DMC 2b.

Higher frequency machines around 15 khz can't tolerate any movement of the balance wires. I suspect they are trying to tack down the balance wire with hot glue and expanding and contraction makes it go out of balance.
We need coils that tolerate down to at least 10 but better to zero and up over 100 since a coil in the sun, on a beach etc is going to heat up.
They need a closer tolerance like the V rated coils and probably go to the solid coils like Nokta. JMHO

Jerry

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

They will give you a new coil

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

I don't have that problem but if they the company does have a problem they should let all of us send in our coils for new ones and fix the problem other then that it is a nice detector i really like mine

 

[foxhunter]

So after doing a second test with the coil cover on..In the freezer for 7 minutes this time..Hooked it up and wammo!!!! in overload...so while it was in overload mode I took the cover off..still in overload..I turned the machine off and on 4-5 times..still in overload...so I began moving the coil wire right where it connects to the coil..It started going in and out of overload for about 30 seconds..Then it straited out..The time I took it out of the freezer from the time it quit was about 4 minutes...I see some of you have tested with freezer and not had the same issues...Thats great!! seams your coil's are all good...

 

[Cal_Cobra]

I saw this issue twice last weekend. The first time it occurred I switched to my F75 to detect, and let the Racer warm up. Then the poweron saturation cleared.

The second time this occured, I switched the machine off, and removed the coil cover. Then when I powered it on, it operated as normal.

I contact Makro and they shipped me a replacement coil without hesitation. So kudos on the customer service aspect, hopefully this issue is fixed with the replacement coil and only affected a small number of coils.

This overlaod issue has nothing to do with the settings, as a matter of fact when the machine comes on in "saturation mode" I was locked out of the ability to make any menu setting changes, so it's something it's testing and fails while the machine boots up, inhibiting it from operation.

 

[foxhunter]

Yes...hopefully they are working on this issue..