Well, if it weren't for the Will of God through the guiding and directing His believing followers, there wouldn't be anything as far as new nations and a Nation settled under God by faithful believers and followers of Christ...the name above all names! He gives us the will to be believers and changes our fleshly wills to His Spiritual Will and by studying, dilitgently, His Holy written Word the Bible, we know how to walk with Jesus and do the Will of our Father, God Jehovah! When people don't want to believe or follow the One and Only true God, then they are used of satan, the devil, and serve him whether they like or believe it or not! Our forefathers could not worship like they wanted to do in Jesus' name, so they left the Church of England and settled in America....starting a One Nation Under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for all by pursuing happiness (not automatically given to them)! Bibles were in the schools to read and study the truth of God Jehovah and His beloved Son, Jesus! The Church of England wanted everyone to worship like they did and not be free to worship God the way our forefathers wanted to do so!
We are not given that choice by our unwise and ungodly leaders, today, who as the evil ones have made laws to keep Bibles, Jesus and our Almighty God out of schools, the Gov't (State and Federal) but when this happens most of the people will turn back to their believing faith in Christ Jesus and turn the nations laws around again through prayers, faithfulness and fighting just like the Revolutionary War! Prayers were prayed by George Washington and those in Congress and even stone of the Gov't buildings have our Almighty God with His Commandments and Scriptures etched on them, letting everyone know Whom they served and it certainly wasn't religions that don't believe in loving, serving and obeying God Jehovah (Elohem) The one and only true God, Who died for our sins by coming down to Earth as fully God and fully man born in the flesh by virgin birth and lived a sinless life, and became the crucified Lamb of God in the name of Jesus....the only pure One Who could take all of our sins upon Himself in each sinners place (and we are all born sinners and in need of a Savior) that we might be saved and have eternal life forever more in the Kingdom of God in the presence of our Blessed Lord and Savior! Any other faith or belief is satan fooling them and they cannot nor will be in new Jerusalem City after mortal death for their soul must be purified and made righteous in the precious, shed blood of our dear Savior, Jesus Christ! He is the life, the truth and the way to our Heavenly Father (God Jehovah) and no one will enter into God's glorious, golden Kingdom without Him as their Savior and Lord! The reason our nation is failing is because most have turned away from the true God and are followers of false gods and false religions allowing them the freedom to worship their ways but they aren't safisfied until they take God Jehovah in Jesus' name our of the equation....which King Solomon also did the same thing because of all his wives and concubines who worshiped idols and false gods! When a nation's citizens turn away from the One God, Who is faithful and true, that nation will fail unless and until they return to the God of Abraham, Jacob and Isaac......Who was, is and will always be the God of the Universe and the Great I Am! God's straight and narrow way through Jesus Christ is the only way for receiving eternal life for the soul in joy and peace and not to be cast into the Lake of Fire!
God allows people to have a free will, but His will is for them to believe in His beloved Son, Jesus, and be saved by their repentance of all their sins and the forgiveness of their sins by Him and to obey His Will and follow His righteous way all the way to Glory! May our Heavenly Father, in Jesus' name, change the hearts of mankind to walk in His will and be with Him forever more! Amen! God's mercy endures forever, so it is not too late to believe in Jesus until mortal death takes hold of the body or the saints, dead or alive, are resurrected up unto Him in the air and be free in Jesus' freedom and victory on the cross, eternally! After that, mankind will have to die for their faith during the reign of the antichrist, who sets himself up in the temple as the true messiah, but is a liar and a false one, so be aware unbelivers...for God will not be mocked and He will bring to fulfillment the end of the age as we know it and bring His Kingdom to earth where Jesus will rule and reign forever!
Maybe someone can link the CMD Forum posts to the posts on the other one! I didn't go there and just don't have the time to post long posts like I do on them also!

Ma Betty