I dont have a LTD right now, but will be getting one in the near future. Just trying to learn some things before I get it. I have seen Bill Ladd running his LTD at 99 sens. I am wondering if he is abuseing the power of the detector when he doesnt need to. Wouldnt it be better to back the sens. off to a point where you had less falseing, so you could concentrate on the deeper signals. I dont know how the LTD compares to the older CZ series, but on the CZs you only gained about 1" in depth going from 5 sens. up to 10. I would like to hear anyones opinions on sens. levels with the LTD. Thanks, Mark
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Running to high on sens. ?
- Thread starter SWMO Mark
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Low-Boy/LCPM
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the higher the sens the better at unmasking
I had an original and it was my main machine for over a year. I now have an LTD.
At first I tried to run it in BP or CL with the sens like I did on the original. I rarely ran 99 and I never ran the disc on 0. My settings on the original were usually disc=6; sens=75 to 85; mode=DE; tones 2F. I would run one tone if a site was no longer giving up relics or coins and dig anything above 20 on the TID but that is hard work, watching the screen all the time. I rarely used AM on the original.
When I got the LTD I tried to do the same thing using BP and CL... to be fair, it has been cold and wet and I haven't used it as much as i'd like but I have a few results.
At one park in Atlanta I could not use it. I didn't try lowering the sensitivity below 50, I just never had to do that with the F75. Then there was another place that is known for it's difficulty due to mineralization. It also has powerlines.... and confederate trenchlines....
I was on a part of that place and was using the LTD. I only used the small coil there but I was able to run sens=99; disc=0; and any tones I wanted. I mostly used 2F. I am serious, it was so quiet that I thought my head phones were in stereo, they weren't, I thought it wasn't working.. it was. I didn't find any relics, I was only there for about 30 minutes but I did dig a handfull of old shotgun brass, and they could just as easily have been buttons... So I was impressed.
Last week I was able to get out one day at an old churchyard. I used the 11" stock coil. I set the sens=50, disc=0 and I mostly used 4H tones. It was very stable and I was digging coins 8-9 inches easily. I was getting hits deeper but it was messy and I was concerned about leaving a mess and didn't dig any deeper that I could get with one scoop of my "relic shark" shovel and then my hand.
I think trying to use high sensitivity is probably not a good idea at a lot of places. I started to chatter when it hit 60 and I was digging as deep as I wanted to with it at 50. I wish I had lowered it to see how low I could go and still get the results I was getting.
I see no use in hearing a bunch of chatter if I don't need it. There may be places where I need to but I know you can lower it and run it quiet at some places and do very well. Also, remember that BP and CL carry over to AM and AM is a good bit quieter.
I am excited to get out to a few places I know very well and have hunted a lot. Places where I found LOTS of relics but I find hardly anything anymore... I am excited to see what the LTD will do there. I am pretty sure there is a breastplate there. I found the box plate at about 15", under a tree root.. maybe the LTD will show me the breastplate!
Bottom line I don't think you need to max the sens all the time. You might try (I know this sounds crazy) setting the disc=0; sens=25 and then raise the sens until it is chattering, then lower it until it's stable. Then see what sort of depth you are getting, what sort of seperation. If at that point you're getting good depth and making good finds... what's not to like? You can always go back later with it maxed out and noisy and see if you find anything else.
IMO,
J
At first I tried to run it in BP or CL with the sens like I did on the original. I rarely ran 99 and I never ran the disc on 0. My settings on the original were usually disc=6; sens=75 to 85; mode=DE; tones 2F. I would run one tone if a site was no longer giving up relics or coins and dig anything above 20 on the TID but that is hard work, watching the screen all the time. I rarely used AM on the original.
When I got the LTD I tried to do the same thing using BP and CL... to be fair, it has been cold and wet and I haven't used it as much as i'd like but I have a few results.
At one park in Atlanta I could not use it. I didn't try lowering the sensitivity below 50, I just never had to do that with the F75. Then there was another place that is known for it's difficulty due to mineralization. It also has powerlines.... and confederate trenchlines....
I was on a part of that place and was using the LTD. I only used the small coil there but I was able to run sens=99; disc=0; and any tones I wanted. I mostly used 2F. I am serious, it was so quiet that I thought my head phones were in stereo, they weren't, I thought it wasn't working.. it was. I didn't find any relics, I was only there for about 30 minutes but I did dig a handfull of old shotgun brass, and they could just as easily have been buttons... So I was impressed.
Last week I was able to get out one day at an old churchyard. I used the 11" stock coil. I set the sens=50, disc=0 and I mostly used 4H tones. It was very stable and I was digging coins 8-9 inches easily. I was getting hits deeper but it was messy and I was concerned about leaving a mess and didn't dig any deeper that I could get with one scoop of my "relic shark" shovel and then my hand.
I think trying to use high sensitivity is probably not a good idea at a lot of places. I started to chatter when it hit 60 and I was digging as deep as I wanted to with it at 50. I wish I had lowered it to see how low I could go and still get the results I was getting.
I see no use in hearing a bunch of chatter if I don't need it. There may be places where I need to but I know you can lower it and run it quiet at some places and do very well. Also, remember that BP and CL carry over to AM and AM is a good bit quieter.
I am excited to get out to a few places I know very well and have hunted a lot. Places where I found LOTS of relics but I find hardly anything anymore... I am excited to see what the LTD will do there. I am pretty sure there is a breastplate there. I found the box plate at about 15", under a tree root.. maybe the LTD will show me the breastplate!
Bottom line I don't think you need to max the sens all the time. You might try (I know this sounds crazy) setting the disc=0; sens=25 and then raise the sens until it is chattering, then lower it until it's stable. Then see what sort of depth you are getting, what sort of seperation. If at that point you're getting good depth and making good finds... what's not to like? You can always go back later with it maxed out and noisy and see if you find anything else.
IMO,
J
As I mainly old coin hunt on very trashy spots, I do run sen. on my LTD and regular F 75 in the 90 plus range when I can as I do know the higher sen.setting does do a better job of unmasking and also hits coins at depth that are on edge or slanted, better. (The LTD quite a bit better on on edge coins in bp verses de mode)
Although my time with the LTD has also been hampered by weather, I do know there are a couple of places that I can now hunt with the LTD that would almost, or would, shut my F 75 down. Both are either under or right beside certain power lines. I say certain, as not all power lines are a problem with either detector. In fact, a good many aren't at all. When hunting under one power line with my regular F 75 I had to get sen. down to about 30 and set disc. at 6 for it to run fairly stable. With the LTD I was able to leave disc. at 0 and run a sen. of 52. One of the several targets I dug from this stretch was a silver dime at 6" and a wheatie and a clad dime from a little deeper...and all the targets were hit with the 5" small DD coil. On the other spot, there occurred like intermittent power surges and when these happened with my F 75 the only thing that worked was to move several yards away. With the LTD when these surges took place, settings of 50 sen. and 6 disc. quieted it down and I was able to dig coins, 2 being totally on edge, and 1 small silver ring down to depths of 6-7." Again, with the 5" coil on.
Now, as some of you may recall, I have a slightly slanted 9" burried dime that has only been in the ground 4 1/2 years. Right now my boat is over the spot as I had to move it a while back from under a big oak tree just in case a branch broke from a ice storm we were about to get, but at first chance I'll see how low sen. will go before it won't hit it. Originally, I checked it with the LTD in bp mode with 0 disc. and 90 sen. with the 11" stock coil and it peeped on it nicely.
Although I personally like running high sen., I do know it will hit coins running with a good bit less at some pretty good depth.
HH jim tn
Although my time with the LTD has also been hampered by weather, I do know there are a couple of places that I can now hunt with the LTD that would almost, or would, shut my F 75 down. Both are either under or right beside certain power lines. I say certain, as not all power lines are a problem with either detector. In fact, a good many aren't at all. When hunting under one power line with my regular F 75 I had to get sen. down to about 30 and set disc. at 6 for it to run fairly stable. With the LTD I was able to leave disc. at 0 and run a sen. of 52. One of the several targets I dug from this stretch was a silver dime at 6" and a wheatie and a clad dime from a little deeper...and all the targets were hit with the 5" small DD coil. On the other spot, there occurred like intermittent power surges and when these happened with my F 75 the only thing that worked was to move several yards away. With the LTD when these surges took place, settings of 50 sen. and 6 disc. quieted it down and I was able to dig coins, 2 being totally on edge, and 1 small silver ring down to depths of 6-7." Again, with the 5" coil on.
Now, as some of you may recall, I have a slightly slanted 9" burried dime that has only been in the ground 4 1/2 years. Right now my boat is over the spot as I had to move it a while back from under a big oak tree just in case a branch broke from a ice storm we were about to get, but at first chance I'll see how low sen. will go before it won't hit it. Originally, I checked it with the LTD in bp mode with 0 disc. and 90 sen. with the 11" stock coil and it peeped on it nicely.
Although I personally like running high sen., I do know it will hit coins running with a good bit less at some pretty good depth.
HH jim tn
jbow said:
Very good!
May I suggest a little more specific procedure: raise the sensitivity until you hear 2-3 ticks per second with the coil stationary on the ground, then drop the sensitivity by 5 points. You'll run nearly silect (Explorer like silent) and still get 8+ inches depth on a silver dime in my soil (F75 LTD).