I have been spending some time experimenting with my Safari ...Another forum member gave me a list of things to try using my Safari and I was really quite surprised at what I heard ....One of the biggest revelations and there were many , was the fact that the " Mastering the Quattro " book mentioned using the "Low Trash Density " as the norm as it gave slightly better depth, and also better target I.D. ..... What I found ( thanks to my forum friend ) is that by using the "LOW" setting , the recovery time when going over a target is VERY slow , and in most cases whatever the first target that you hit , is the one that you are hearing and other targets just get smeared into that one tone with the recovery being so slow .....In other words there are other targets that are missed ..... Slowing down helps, but is not the cure all .....I found that when using the "High" setting as mentioned in the book for sites with more trash , that responce time is much faster, and you can hear the target seperation BETTER than with the "Low " setting .... I"m not sure how much depth I'm giving away , but I'm surely finding a lot more targets , and much more clearly , running the "High" setting .....The seperation of targets is almost like putting a small coil on your Safari .... It also pinpoints just fine ..... As far as the target I.D. , I go more by the tone than I do looking at any target I.D. numbers ....I'm not sure that there is really ANY machine that has accurate TID's .....I won't even discuss the icons that pop onto the screen ..... While the book recomends using the "Low" setting as the norm, and use the "High" as a specialty setting , I'm not so sure that I will use the "Low" setting unless I go beach hunting as a "specialty" setting .... ..... I'm also catching more flies with a much lower sensitivity setting too running this way , but thats another story ....Jim
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Safari Trash Sensitivity
- Thread starter synthnut
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I use high most of the time also it just seems to work better for me and this TN. ground. Slowing down helps more than a lot of people realize. I.m not sure about the depth issue. If there is a difference it does'nt seem to be much. That Safari goes deep anyway. My 2 cents worth. HH 
Jim,
your exactly right. I always run in High setting. I have taken the time after finding a target in high and then switch to low and re ground cancel and then check the target again and often times the target doesn't sound as good in low as it did in high. This is always due to some trash target close to the good target. Even though a site may not have a high concentration of trash, there still may be something near that particular target that is trying to mask it, often times its iron where I hunt and the high setting just plain works better for me. As far as loosing depth, I have found some targets at depths that have just plain amazed me while hunting in the high setting.
And I agree, I may use the low setting if I do any beach hunting, but I don't see getting to do that any time soon.
Again I agree on the TID, I have gone from a detector with a single tone to the Safari with the multi tone and now hunt by tone. The TID can move around a bunch due to target masking, but if I hear that sweet tone even slightly, and get a good tid from only one sweep direction then get a different tid like a negative number from the opposite sweep direction, I dig and I have recovered a bunch of silver so far this year by doing this. I also dig some trash.
I may be off here but this is what I think, the sites/parks I am hunting right now have been hunted a lot. Two of these parks are not used a lot anymore and I consider them to be pretty clean as far as trash goes, but the targets that are still there are still there because they are being masked by trash and have been skipped over by others. The Safari and other FBS Minelabs have this abiltiy to see and sound off on the good target even though there is something else there. The High trash density setting is what allows this to happen much better.
Dan C
your exactly right. I always run in High setting. I have taken the time after finding a target in high and then switch to low and re ground cancel and then check the target again and often times the target doesn't sound as good in low as it did in high. This is always due to some trash target close to the good target. Even though a site may not have a high concentration of trash, there still may be something near that particular target that is trying to mask it, often times its iron where I hunt and the high setting just plain works better for me. As far as loosing depth, I have found some targets at depths that have just plain amazed me while hunting in the high setting.
And I agree, I may use the low setting if I do any beach hunting, but I don't see getting to do that any time soon.
Again I agree on the TID, I have gone from a detector with a single tone to the Safari with the multi tone and now hunt by tone. The TID can move around a bunch due to target masking, but if I hear that sweet tone even slightly, and get a good tid from only one sweep direction then get a different tid like a negative number from the opposite sweep direction, I dig and I have recovered a bunch of silver so far this year by doing this. I also dig some trash.
I may be off here but this is what I think, the sites/parks I am hunting right now have been hunted a lot. Two of these parks are not used a lot anymore and I consider them to be pretty clean as far as trash goes, but the targets that are still there are still there because they are being masked by trash and have been skipped over by others. The Safari and other FBS Minelabs have this abiltiy to see and sound off on the good target even though there is something else there. The High trash density setting is what allows this to happen much better.
Dan C
Hi Dan,
I like hunting parks that I know have been picked thru also ....I know that more than likely , a lot of the machines that have gone thru the parks have not gone deep enough to find the old Silver .... Yoiu're right too about the coins being masked by the iron ....One of the experiments that I did had to do with putting a dime about 10 inches from a pull tab on top of the soil ....Run your coil over the top of them and in Low Trash Density ....Do the same in " High" and see what happens ....In " low " the pull tab will mask the dime ....In high you read both the pull tab AND the dime seperately .... Another thing when hunting in "High Trash Density" is the fact that I do NOT get near as many falsing tones .....I think a lot of guys who hunt in parks will hear what they think is a falsing tone near an iron null, when in reality , it might be a coin tone trying to squeak by an iron tone .... High Trash density is the only way you can distinguish these tones .....I will from now on hunt in Ferrous mode, with High Trash Density ....Less falsing , and clear distinguishing tones .... That's interesting that you have your finds after sweeping on one direction where the opposite direction might not be the same ....I too have found some good targets digging anyway even if I don't get a good tone in every direction ....As long as I can get some sort of repeat in one direction and the tone is sweet and solid , I'm digging !!.....Thanks for your input .....Jim
Hershey 1,
Yes , slowing down does help a lot , especially in the high trash density setting .....You can surely hear more targets that way .....Jim
I like hunting parks that I know have been picked thru also ....I know that more than likely , a lot of the machines that have gone thru the parks have not gone deep enough to find the old Silver .... Yoiu're right too about the coins being masked by the iron ....One of the experiments that I did had to do with putting a dime about 10 inches from a pull tab on top of the soil ....Run your coil over the top of them and in Low Trash Density ....Do the same in " High" and see what happens ....In " low " the pull tab will mask the dime ....In high you read both the pull tab AND the dime seperately .... Another thing when hunting in "High Trash Density" is the fact that I do NOT get near as many falsing tones .....I think a lot of guys who hunt in parks will hear what they think is a falsing tone near an iron null, when in reality , it might be a coin tone trying to squeak by an iron tone .... High Trash density is the only way you can distinguish these tones .....I will from now on hunt in Ferrous mode, with High Trash Density ....Less falsing , and clear distinguishing tones .... That's interesting that you have your finds after sweeping on one direction where the opposite direction might not be the same ....I too have found some good targets digging anyway even if I don't get a good tone in every direction ....As long as I can get some sort of repeat in one direction and the tone is sweet and solid , I'm digging !!.....Thanks for your input .....Jim
Hershey 1,
Yes , slowing down does help a lot , especially in the high trash density setting .....You can surely hear more targets that way .....Jim
croakersmoker78
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what would be the best way to set it for gold and silver
I am getting more and more into setting my Safari up to run in the "All Metal" mode ......I get my ear use to either a higher tone for Sliver since it's up around numbers 38/39 ......or I get my ears more in tune with the Gold range which is in the 13/14/15 tone range .....Generally I will hunt for Gold on the beach , and I will hunt Silver on land in area's where there are OLD coins .... Most of my high tones on the beach generally produce more clad than anything else .... Then again , when on the beach, DIG EVERYTHING !!!.......Ya never know !!....Jim