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At least that's the way it seems. Went with the E-trac hoping it would get more depth than my previous machines and, sure enough, it does just that. The problem, as I see it, is there doesn't seem to be many old coins around. Sink rate here shouldn't be any worse than other parts of the country. E-trac can't do its stuff unless it gets on top of something. Not a Mercury nor even a Buffalo.

Site selection is very important and even I should be able to hit a good spot every now and then. If the pickins are as slim as I'm thinking, having an E-trac is definitely over-kill. Wife says take some time and think it over. We'll see.

Ron
 
So are you complaining because the E-Trac has great depth or becuase you don't live in an old enough area?

Also, coin don't sink. Depth depends on enviromental factors, namely how fast the turf grasses grow and for how long. A very well watered, fertilized, and manicured lawn will have MUCH deeper coins than a ratty, sparse yard that is never taken tended.
 
Naw, just trying to figure out if it's me or just not a real productive area. Area is old enough alright... like the town sprung up in 1867 when the railroad was still only to the now Wy/Neb border. This was Dakota Territory then.

Like most other places in the mid 1800's, travel was either by horse or the iron horse. Picnicking was popular here just like back East. Went to a spot today where many Cheyenne folk used to picnic. As usual, they would take the train to get there and back even though it was only a few miles out of town. Pretty good ride by horse. Picnic area is on private property and I'm working on permission. The railroad right of way berm, minus the tracks, is still accessible but it looks like large sections have been taken out by a front loader or something. Also snow still in the low spots. Weeds need to be knocked down by the winter weather and I'll try again in the spring.

So far I have about 15 to 20 hours on the E-trac. Performance by the E-trac in what's left of my test garden amazed even a skeptic like me. Hitting the dime and nickel at 8" and the quarter at 12" made me sit up and take notice. If I were a little younger I would be digging more questionable hits.

One of the local parks has a carpet of nails and other ferrous stuff deep and a carpet of non-ferrous stuff shallow. Didn't take long to switch to Ferrous 2 tone. Usually, the ground is hard as a rock but now it's moist and soft. Would be a real challenge to dig something good out of that mess.

Big part of being successful is being confident and right now I'm lacking in that area.

Ron
 
I can't help but feel you have company in your area when it comes to metal detecting. Over the last several years I've met quite a few people that I find out have been metal detecting my same town. I run into them not out detecting, but at their place of work. I'm always confused when they tell me they've been detecting here for some 20 years, when I've been detecting here that long and never ever seen them. I say you must have company because if it weren't the case, you'd have some easy pickings.

The best thing you can do is try and out think your competition. If you're not finding old coins in your local park, if its old, then someone has beat you to the easy stuff. find those out of normal hunting areas like the fringe. Research is your best avenue for finding great unhunted sites. The E-Trac will find the goodies if you get the coil over them. Finding little know sites such as old carnival grounds, camp sites and long gone schools will give you the edge.
 
Yep, I believe you are correct. Apparently, one of the locals and a couple of his friends have been hitting the area hard for many years. I've been wondering why I never see anyone else hunting and maybe it's because they think they've recovered all the easy stuff and aren't willing to spend the time to get some of the more difficult but valuable coins. If so, that gives me an opportunity.

I'm going to take your advice and hit some of the fringe areas, under bushes and areas that are not easy to get at. Having the E-trac will allow me to slow down and search for those deep targets. This will be something new for me as normally I'm not intent on finding anything in particular. I'm going to turn my GAIN down some and listen for those quieter, deeper signals. My thinking before had been to keep the GAIN up so all targets would be loud and I wouldn't miss anything but after a while nothing really stands out as deep.

Obviously, it's time to change hunting strategy. Thanks again! HH

Ron
 
I'm in a similar situation. The parks and schools in my town have been heavily hunted over the past three or four decades. Hunting around here is tough. But I'm glad I've got the E-trac. I've managed to find some oldies in spite of the tough conditions. If it's there, the E-trac will find it. Since March of this year I've only found 12 silver coins. That's a drop in the bucket compared to Nick_A who is shooting for 300 silver this year. But I'm happy with my finds. Persevere. Look for new sites. Travel to other towns...to the big cities. You will find the goodies. Best of luck!
 
Thanks Dan:

I'm not ready to give up on the E-trac just yet. Going to plant some challenging targets in my test garden and put a fence around it. Hopefully, some of those sounds will begin to have meaning for me. I'm sure that some targets got missed so far but I'm eager to learn. HH

Ron
 
I live in northern California and I regularly encounter fellow detectorists aka "the competition" whenever I'm pounding the turf at an older park. I started this hobby in January, and I chose the E-Trac because I felt I needed the best in depth in order to compete. But what's interesting is that the majority of old coins I've found thus far (12 Silver, 47 wheats) have been in hard pan soil, and consequently they were less than 6" deep. This means that the majority of detectorists would've been able to find them too, if they had just put their coil over the target.

Like most rookies I began by hitting the local parks and expected that the old coins would just pop out left and right. But after a couple months of finding clad and no oldies, I realized that I needed to change my strategy and perception or find another hobby. So I began participating in this forum diligently and joined a local metal detecting club to share location tips with people that have been enjoying this hobby a lot longer than I have. But the most important change was that I began doing better research, which led me to one spot that has produced 8 of my 12 silvers thus far. But location isn't usually enough anymore, as I'm sure others have detected this spot too. The difference with this location is that the turf is infested with iron, and I suspect it has discouraged the majority of detectorists that have attempted to hunt it. Another difference is that there are bridal paths that are very steep and difficult to climb. Naturally this discourages foot traffic too, but I did find one of the silver quarter and a copper bracelet by taking the initiative to climb these paths with my detector in tow.

Its been stated in these forums time and again - the easy silver targets were pulled out during the 80s and 90s. So you have to get creative with better research and willingness to pound areas where most detectorists are discouraged to hunt. For example, trashy, iron infested turf, heavy brush, bushes, the park perimeter, sidewalk strips etc. I have to admit that I still don't hunt the park perimeter and sidewalk strips, because you're going to encounter a lot more onlookers. This means my competition has an advantage if they're willing to tolerate the extra attention. Now I haven't found any silver during my last three hunts, and I'm starting to have withdrawal symptoms. Next week I may just bite the bullet and level the playing field by hunting a few sidewalk strips in the older parts of town.

I hope this helps you find more oldies. Good luck with your new E-Trac.

-Alex
 
Amen on most of the easy stuff is gone. I too am finding it tough to find places that still hold silver and other good targets. But like the previous posts said, the ET will find it if it's there.
 
Thanks Alex and Al:

Well, I don't feel alone in "the no silver zone" anymore. Parks/Lakes here have been around since c.1870. I've found wheats at 7" or *8", so the older stuff is probably much deeper. Considering how the E-trac performs in my test garden, coins within the 8" to 12" range are possible. Since all my previous machines have been fast sweep types, slowing down and really covering a small area is what I need to work on. HH

Ron
 
gibsondan said:
I'm in a similar situation. The parks and schools in my town have been heavily hunted over the past three or four decades. Hunting around here is tough. But I'm glad I've got the E-trac. I've managed to find some oldies in spite of the tough conditions. If it's there, the E-trac will find it. Since March of this year I've only found 12 silver coins. That's a drop in the bucket compared to Nick_A who is shooting for 300 silver this year. But I'm happy with my finds. Persevere. Look for new sites. Travel to other towns...to the big cities. You will find the goodies. Best of luck!

Thanks Dan! :)
 
It's not depth. It's target masking. The E-Trac is awesome at finding the coins other detectors have missed. The target separation is outstanding as well as the ID. Does the E-Trac go deep? Yes it does. But that's not it's greatest strength. The greatest strength is being able to walk over to a picnic table in a trashy park and pick off a few silver coins out of the trash around that picnic table. I used to avoid those old tables like the plague. Now I walk right up to them. The last one I remember walking around I dug a 1942 quarter right next to the end of one of the benches.

If all you're judging the E-Trac on is depth, you're missing a big part of the picture.
 
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